It is how we look to the outside that bothers me first... as I said in the thread:
Manners is behaving when others are watching. Class is not having to change your behavior because someone is watching.
I think it is possible to teach manners, and class comes later.
As always, this is my humble opinion... I am not here to tick everyone off over Chelsea Clinton. Jeepers I hope I pick a better battle than that to fight. In the theme of a "kindler, gentler FR" I meant only point out one new thread that I felt was crossing a line, and see if the Moderator, or anyone else, agreed.
I was born Conservative and if these two were MY parents I would have denounced them at a very early age. That she continues to support them is disgraceful. Blood may be thicker than water but this is just wrong.
Eaker
PS: I guess my problem is that I couldn't have any self respect if EVERYONE on the planet knew that I was a disgraced liar.