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1 posted on 01/25/2002 4:26:26 AM PST by Starmaker
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To: Starmaker
What would Chuck Baldwin like President Bush to say? Today we are honoring a whore hopper by the name of Martin Luther King who lived his life as a hypocrite" Lots of great things were accomplished by bad people, MLK wasn't elected by anyone, so who should he be held accountable to?

Just because a politician compliments someone, that doesn't make that person a hero.

MESSAGE TO CHUCK BALDWIN: It's politics stupid

2 posted on 01/25/2002 4:42:26 AM PST by MJY1288
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Martin Luther King, Jr. brought havoc and unrest to America as few men have ever done. One look at the plight of black families today reveals that his legacy is one of destruction not healing.

This is patently unfair. I'm no great fan of MLK the man, but there were very genuine injustices being done in his day and his leadership approach was the right one to solve them. What the Jacksons and Sharptons of the world have done since his death can't be laid at his door.

Can't disagree on Kennedy, however.

4 posted on 01/25/2002 4:51:23 AM PST by Ratatoskr
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Anyone sense a wink and a nod from Bush on these "compliments"? The way I see it, over 60% of the country is registered Democrat/stupid. Your going to have to pump them up a little.
5 posted on 01/25/2002 4:59:03 AM PST by Christian B
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Heroes are humans with feet of clay ensconced in a filigree of gold. The myth of heroism is based in fact on specific incidents or words with a strong message. MLK, Kennedy (JFK), Lincoln, etc. established a resonance that was enhanced by their violent ends. Their lives that were cut short by their murders would not necessarily have been so widely admired had they not ended so violently. They were all socialists whose popularity owed much to their willingness to take from the rich and give to the poor.
6 posted on 01/25/2002 5:02:21 AM PST by Movemout
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Heroes are humans with feet of clay ensconced in a filigree of gold. The myth of heroism is based in fact on specific incidents or words with a strong message. MLK, Kennedy (JFK), Lincoln, etc. established a resonance that was enhanced by their violent ends. Their lives that were cut short by their murders would not necessarily have been so widely admired had they not ended so violently. They were all socialists whose popularity owed much to their willingness to take from the rich and give to the poor.
7 posted on 01/25/2002 5:02:44 AM PST by Movemout
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Is it possible that in w's eyes, those worthy of his admiration are men who have/had great power over others?

In the end this (power) is the holy grail for the caliber of men mentioned here.

8 posted on 01/25/2002 5:05:02 AM PST by WhiteGuy
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Take away Martin Luther King completely from our history and take away Chuck Baldwin completely from our history and I wonder which would have a greater affect?

Another thing. King spent the night before his assasination at a church giving his 'Been to the Mountaintop' speech. Where did the hookers come in? Is this an urban legend or can someone actually point to evidence that supports that charge?

13 posted on 01/25/2002 5:17:25 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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I have no problem with King being made an American icon. I DO have a problem with the left shoving aside other American icons to make room for him. MLK is the only American figure with a holiday named after him as if he is the only person in US history worth honoring.
16 posted on 01/25/2002 5:20:53 AM PST by skeeter
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King has more streets named after him than clinton does. Oh no...you don't think they're gonna start naming streets after him do you?
18 posted on 01/25/2002 5:23:39 AM PST by OliverWendellDouglas
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This is polictics, pure and simple. As I have stated in other threads, there is no harm in being nice.

As President, Bush is expected to say something about MLK. By being nice and generous with his praise, he may or may not gain any support from the other side, but if he was anyting less than respectfull, he could face a firestorm of criticism. This is all part of Polictic, the double standards, the Democrats can do and say anything they want and get away with it. The reason is clear, the media support Democrats and will destroy a Republican in a minute if they make a mistake.

What did it hurt to praise Kennedy? Nothing.

The major media in this country is just waiting for a mistep by President Bush, don't believe me, look how fast they jumped on Enron.

By being nice, it is hard for the other side to demonize him. And that is important. He does not have to waste time defending himself, he can slowly put in place his policies.

29 posted on 01/25/2002 5:36:21 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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Chuck Baldwin is a naive maroon! lol
30 posted on 01/25/2002 5:43:38 AM PST by verity
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Up until 9-11, the defining characteristics of a "hero" in this country had become a bit sketchy. President Bush is an honorable man and even when speaking about our most detestable foes, he manages to sound courteous. As for Teddy K, what's that verse about acting kindly to annoying people and thus heaping burning coals upon their heads? It seems President Bush knows well how to apply it.
31 posted on 01/25/2002 5:55:44 AM PST by meowmeow
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King David was also a murderer and fornicator (as friends of Bill Clinton loved to point out). Maybe Shakespear had it backwards -- the good that men do lives after them, the evil buried with their bones. (paraphrasing)
32 posted on 01/25/2002 5:57:12 AM PST by js1138
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What a dumb article. Has Baldwin read King's "Letter from Birmingham Jail" (where he clearly rejects Marxism) and the "I Have a Dream" speech? Those are some of the most beautifully American things ever written or said. As for Ted the Porker, has Baldwin ever heard of POLITICS??? You have to hold your nose and slap the backs of the worst of them sometimes. Even Peres shook hands with Arafat, for Chrissakes.

bulldawg

37 posted on 01/25/2002 6:20:30 AM PST by bulldawg
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