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The President's Strange Heroes
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| January 27, 2002
| Chuck Baldwin
Posted on 01/25/2002 4:26:25 AM PST by Starmaker
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To: gunnedah
The real answer is truth regardless of what party or persuasion you are.You ask a liberal to define truth and watch the illogical crap you get. You can't reason with most liberals. Their beliefs are borne of emotion.
To: skeeter
"I have no problem with King being made an American icon. I DO have a problem with the left shoving aside other American icons to make room for him. MLK is the only American figure with a holiday named after him as if he is the only person in US history worth honoring."
I agree just read this thread..
Barnes rejects Reagan Day' push by GOP.
To: Savage Beast
You're absolutely right. Our greatest heroes are flawed. That's part of the beauty. They're human, just like the rest of us.An flawed, honest hero is a beautiful thing. A liar cloaked in heroic events is not. Some of the most terrible liars lie in their appearance, presenting themselves as standing faithful to a fundamental principle or belief--e.g., fidelity to Lord or spouse--while denying the same in every private word and action.
The essayist's contention is that MLK was a well-spoken liar. Personally, I withhold judgment because I do not know the facts in MLK's case. MLK had many enemies bent on destroying him through every means possible including lies and innuendo; there is undoubtedly an enormous amount of falsehood still circulating.
MLK's oratory comprised the civil rights movement's most devastating sword. He was the right man for the right time for the right issue.
To: Savage Beast
MLK was a good man. He was not perfect, but he would have spit on the jokers Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
To: Non-Sequitur
My dear informed friend,please obtain the book titled"And The Walls Came Tumbling Down" by Ralph David Abernathey. He was Kings right hand man and with him the last night of his life.This will cast a lot of light if that is what you are looking for.You may have trouble finding it because the Liberal as well as Conservative leaders try to hide it. Look in your state college library.You like so many others are affraid to face the truth.America is becoming worse than Communist.Your press reports what is PC. What have you heard of Mike 'The Biting Dog" Tysons racist tirade?What goes around comes around.
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01/25/2002 5:33:46 AM PST
by
gunnedah
To: Non-Sequitur
My dear informed friend,please obtain the book titled"And The Walls Came Tumbling Down" by Ralph David Abernathey. He was Kings right hand man and with him the last night of his life.This will cast a lot of light if that is what you are looking for.You may have trouble finding it because the Liberal as well as Conservative leaders try to hide it. Look in your state college library.You like so many others are affraid to face the truth.America is becoming worse than Communist.Your press reports what is PC. What have you heard of Mike 'The Biting Dog" Tysons racist tirade?What goes around comes around.
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posted on
01/25/2002 5:34:41 AM PST
by
gunnedah
To: D. Miles
"Baldwin expects perfection, Bush was praising MLK's work for civil rights not his personal life. "Then he needed to say that. To simply heap praise is just another example of how "Revisionist History" has run rampant.
The ends do not justify the means.
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posted on
01/25/2002 5:35:37 AM PST
by
tberry
To: Non-Sequitur
My dear informed friend,please obtain the book titled"And The Walls Came Tumbling Down" by Ralph David Abernathey. He was Kings right hand man and with him the last night of his life.This will cast a lot of light if that is what you are looking for.You may have trouble finding it because the Liberal as well as Conservative leaders try to hide it. Look in your state college library.You like so many others are affraid to face the truth.America is becoming worse than Communist.Your press reports what is PC. What have you heard of Mike 'The Biting Dog" Tysons racist tirade?What goes around comes around.
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01/25/2002 5:36:07 AM PST
by
gunnedah
To: Starmaker
This is polictics, pure and simple. As I have stated in other threads, there is no harm in being nice.
As President, Bush is expected to say something about MLK. By being nice and generous with his praise, he may or may not gain any support from the other side, but if he was anyting less than respectfull, he could face a firestorm of criticism. This is all part of Polictic, the double standards, the Democrats can do and say anything they want and get away with it. The reason is clear, the media support Democrats and will destroy a Republican in a minute if they make a mistake.
What did it hurt to praise Kennedy? Nothing.
The major media in this country is just waiting for a mistep by President Bush, don't believe me, look how fast they jumped on Enron.
By being nice, it is hard for the other side to demonize him. And that is important. He does not have to waste time defending himself, he can slowly put in place his policies.
To: Starmaker
Chuck Baldwin is a naive maroon! lol
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01/25/2002 5:43:38 AM PST
by
verity
To: Starmaker
Up until 9-11, the defining characteristics of a "hero" in this country had become a bit sketchy. President Bush is an honorable man and even when speaking about our most detestable foes, he manages to sound courteous. As for Teddy K, what's that verse about acting kindly to annoying people and thus heaping burning coals upon their heads? It seems President Bush knows well how to apply it.
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01/25/2002 5:55:44 AM PST
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meowmeow
To: Starmaker
King David was also a murderer and fornicator (as friends of Bill Clinton loved to point out). Maybe Shakespear had it backwards -- the good that men do lives after them, the evil buried with their bones. (paraphrasing)
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01/25/2002 5:57:12 AM PST
by
js1138
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To: gunnedah
"I think Baldwin is just trying to show how two faced this government is and the great hypocrisy of politicians"If that was he was trying to do, he failed miserably. I don't see any hypocracy in complimenting someone
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01/25/2002 6:03:38 AM PST
by
MJY1288
To: OliverWendellDouglas
Oh no...you don't think they're gonna start naming streets after him do you? Why not? There are plenty of short bent alleys running through red-light districts which would be perfectly suited to the name "Clinton Avenue".
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01/25/2002 6:09:30 AM PST
by
steve-b
To: steve-b
LOL! Yes, now the idea seems rather appealing...well, actually, Id rather forget him. Maybe a memorial landfill or something.
To: Starmaker
What a dumb article. Has Baldwin read King's "Letter from Birmingham Jail" (where he clearly rejects Marxism) and the "I Have a Dream" speech? Those are some of the most beautifully American things ever written or said. As for Ted the Porker, has Baldwin ever heard of POLITICS??? You have to hold your nose and slap the backs of the worst of them sometimes. Even Peres shook hands with Arafat, for Chrissakes.
bulldawg
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01/25/2002 6:20:30 AM PST
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bulldawg
To: My back yard
MLK was a good man. He was not perfect, but he would have spit on the jokers Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. And you base this statement on what? What you have been told, that's what. Or should I say, what you have been sold.
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01/25/2002 6:54:11 AM PST
by
Northpaw
To: My back yard
Post 24: And in stature, heroism, and just plain decency, MLK was lightyears above MANY of the politicians, so-called "journalists", chatteratti, celebrities, and members of the so-called intelligensia who regularly receive public acclaim.
To: gunnedah
God is the only truth, but I have yet to meet a perfect human being, though I have met many capable of heroism.
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