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Ranchers Win Big
Eastern Arizona Courrier ^ | January 24, 2002 | Tom Jackson King

Posted on 01/24/2002 3:36:30 PM PST by editor-surveyor

Ranchers win big in court

By Tom Jackson King, Managing Editor

It took a quarter of a million dollars and three years, but local rancher Jeff Menges and the Arizona Cattle Growers' Association have won a major ruling on how cattle grazing can occur on federal public lands in Arizona.

On Dec. 17, the Ninth Circuit Court in San Francisco ruled three to zero that the Bureau of Land Management and the U.S. Forest Service could not prohibit cattle grazing on public lands designated as "critical habitat" for endangered species, but where there is no sign any endangered species is currently living on the federal land.

"We're really pleased with the outcome of the ruling," Menges said in an exclusive interview with the Courier.

"I think the ruling narrows the scope of the ESA and when it can be applied. I think the Clinton administration had it way pulled to the left and this will help pull it back to the center," he said.

"They were implementing the ESA illegally. They were issuing incidental take statements when the species weren't even present," Menges said.

When someone uses federal land under permit, the federal agency is required to review the possible environmental impact and endangered species impact of the proposed use of public land. Agencies like BLM and USFS sometimes allow grazing on parcels subject to a finding of an "incidental take" or killing of an endangered species, subject to a promise of behavior changes by the allotment user.

"The take statements just kill you," Menges said. "The prescription can include cattle reduction or cattle removal. They said even though the species weren't present, they said you would be taking if the cattle were in the river even when no razorback suckers were present."

Menges said the ACGA's legal costs for pursuing two legal challenges, one against BLM and one against USFS, have been "between $200,000 and $250,000."

The ACGA challenged the federal interpretation of the Endangered Species Act because, according to Menges, it shut off access to about 400,000 acres of federal public land from cattle grazing. The cattle growers hope to recover most of their legal costs in challenging what Menges called an illegal interpretation of the ESA.

"Hopefully we can recover part of it. It would be from the Forest Service, BLM and U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, the government agencies. We will go back to the courts and ask for our attorneys fees," he said.

Menges said he attended the Dec. 17 hearing in San Francisco where the unanimous decision was rendered.

"We think the ruling was right on with the law. We were really pleased with the reversal of the Cow Flat Allotment in Greenlee County, which belongs to Bill and Barbara Marks. There are loach minnows on part of that, but there wasn't any proof livestock would injure them," he said.

"They (the judges) said there has to be a causal connection, something that causes death or injury, before there is death or injury" under the Endangered Species Act.

Menges said the federal agencies were claiming an "incidental take" of endangered species -- meaning the death of protected animals -- because even though no such animals were present in the allotments, they might become present in the future, some of the land was designated as critical habitat for various fish species, and even upland cattle grazing might cause lowland problems by increased runoff and siltation into the Blue River, Eagle Creek and other waterways in southeastern Arizona.

That worry is what prompted the Southwest Center for Biological Diversity, based in Tucson, to file a lawsuit in 1997 against BLM and Forest Service claiming the agencies were not properly enforcing the Endangered Species Act in incidental take episodes. When the agencies revised their grazing allotment rules to consider hypothetical losses of protected species, Menges said ACGA filed its own court challenge.

"We felt we had no choice but to challenge it," he said.

Martin Taylor, coordinator of the grazing reform program for the Center for Biological Diversity, defended the agencies in their view that animals were harmed even when not present.

"The harm standard may make legal sense but it makes no biological or scientific sense because it demands pretty much to find a dead animal trampled by a cow to meet the standard," he said.

"The standard ignores the most important source of harm facing most endangered species, which is habitat degradation. Habitat loss need not kill animals directly. It usually prevents them from feeding or breeding at all. The very absence of a species from otherwise suitable habitat, to a biologist, is an indication of ongoing harm due to habitat degradation. Following the narrow legal standard, however, this is called "no effect,'" Taylor said.

"The Fish and Wildlife Service needs to focus its attention on critical habitat designation, for which the standard of harm is stronger and sounder biologically. The law requires agencies to avoid degradation of designated critical habitat. This should finally convince the service that endangered species need their critical habitat and they need it as soon as possible," he said.

William Civish, field manager for the Safford BLM Field Office, said more than a year ago that his agency has worked to control cattle impact on endangered species.

"Over the last 20 years, we've worked with the grazing community to move cattle out of the bottom and into the uplands (around the Gila Box Riparian Area). Ten of the ranchers who graze the riparian corridor have voluntarily removed their cattle out of the river bottom," Civish said.

Menges is the president of the ACGA. He raises about 500 head of cattle on giant ranches in Graham and Greenlee counties. Most of the grazing acreage he uses is leased from BLM.

He said grazing cattle on public land and saving endangered species are not mutually incompatible.

"If the law were implemented properly, 90 percent of the Endangered Species Act problems with cattlemen in the state would go away," he said.

ACGA's website is located at www.arizonabeef.org. CBD's website is located at www.biologicaldiversity.org.


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I'm not so sure that this is as big of a win as they think.
1 posted on 01/24/2002 3:36:30 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: *Enviralists; 1Old Pro; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; a_federalist; abner; aculeus; alaskanfan...
This is only 3 judges out of the most liberal district court in the country
2 posted on 01/24/2002 3:38:25 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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Great post, thanks for the heads up, I feel a bump coming on!
3 posted on 01/24/2002 3:40:16 PM PST by cascademountaineer
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To: editor-surveyor
Wait, so the endangered species does not have to be present, just the likelihood that they might be present in the future is enough to trigger the law? Oh my. Just watch for those people who plant lynx hairs, they might be on their way to Arizona to plant minnows somewhere.
4 posted on 01/24/2002 3:42:37 PM PST by Utah Girl
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I'm sure if they look hard enough they can find some lynx hair somewhere. That'll shut down the grazing...

Oh, sarcasm off...

5 posted on 01/24/2002 3:47:50 PM PST by RobRoy
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To: editor-surveyor
Thanks for the ping. Wouldn't have wanted to miss this.
6 posted on 01/24/2002 3:50:25 PM PST by kassie
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To: editor-surveyor
"Martin Taylor, coordinator of the grazing reform program for the Center for Biological Diversity, defended the agencies in their view that animals were harmed even when not present."

This guy is one of those Vegan-Socialists. He would like to have humans in a herd.

Of course, he'd be on his solar powered vehicle 'a crackin' a whip at us.

Good for the ranchers. I hope it sticks and they get their legal fees out of USFS and BLM.

7 posted on 01/24/2002 4:08:32 PM PST by elbucko
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To: editor-surveyor
About 10 years ago, I had left seeing the Grand Canyon. I wanted to go west but the main road showed that it went south for a 100 miles or so, but there was a dirt road that would take me where I wanted to go. Anyways, I took it and more or less got lost. After many gates and cows I came across a small house with a man outside and he helped me out and I asked him if the land was his and he said that it wasn't, that it was owned by Bruce Babbit. At the time I remember that he wanted to shut down grazing on public land. Of course he did. As a large owner of private land he would benifit. Cattle production would drop and his cattle would get a higher price. Also, ranchers displaced from public land would have to rent land from him. Furthermore his land would be more valuable. Babbit, environmentalist greedhead. If you look behind socalled environmentalist and other lefties you find personal gain.
8 posted on 01/24/2002 4:09:57 PM PST by Leisler
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You have "followed the money" and struck pay dirt.

The biggest secret of the "Grazing Rights" dipute is Bruce Babbit and the Democrats "collective greed".

9 posted on 01/24/2002 4:20:05 PM PST by elbucko
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Babbit, environmentalist greedhead.

Put him right up there with Sam Donaldson.

10 posted on 01/24/2002 4:50:59 PM PST by FreePaul
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To: editor-surveyor
Thanks for the ping
This may not be a big win, but it's a win.
11 posted on 01/24/2002 4:51:10 PM PST by sistergoldenhair
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To: Leisler
The Babbit ranch is old (1889 IIRC) and big but Bruce's interest is negligable. There would be no significant economic advantage to Bruce from the grazing land closures. In fact the Babbit ranchs are legendary for their fights with the Navajo over grazing rights.

Bruce is a product of Harvard, not cattle country. He is a pure idealogue. I wish we could pin him for acting in his own self interest but it ain't there. The whole Babbit clan is known for their longevity in Northern Arizona and their "enterprising nature" (read shady) but on this one there is no there there.

12 posted on 01/24/2002 4:55:15 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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This is only 3 judges out of the most liberal district court in the country.

That is impressive.

13 posted on 01/24/2002 5:02:51 PM PST by Zon
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This is big. It is a win for the folks down on the Blue and the Gila Box but I think it signifies a much larger change of direction. This affects the environmentalists in their own backyard. These are two of the whacko's most prized areas. It may also reflect a shift from Janet Reno's strategy of lawyering people to death regardless of the legal merit.
14 posted on 01/24/2002 5:05:33 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK
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To: editor-surveyor
The enviros will never let up. Here in Humboldt County we now have an ordinance outlawing every thing from motorcycles, 4x4s, to horses, dogs, people walking on the beach, even kite flying! This is to protect the nesting Snowy Plover from March to Sept. They are coming after your recreation next...
15 posted on 01/24/2002 5:08:56 PM PST by tubebender
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To: MARTIAL MONK
A. So it was family, not Bruce's?
16 posted on 01/24/2002 5:17:46 PM PST by Leisler
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To: editor-surveyor
Thanks for the ping. Out here in Kalifornia it's the red and yellow legged frogs - none to be found of course - the french bullfrogs killed 'em - along with the ducks unlimited and geese unlimited that eat the pollywogs. But they COULD be here so let's NOY BUILD ANYTHING! Sorry. 4,000,000 acres rendered useless/valueless . . .
17 posted on 01/24/2002 5:51:33 PM PST by Phil V.
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To: editor-surveyor
I'm wondering if this will have some effect on the Sierra Nevada Framework Decision which closes many areas to grazing due to such things as Willow Flycatchers, even where the bird hasn't been seen for some time. This will be interesting to follow.
18 posted on 01/24/2002 5:56:11 PM PST by .38sw
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To: editor-surveyor; *landgrab; *Green; *Enviralists; farmfriend; marsh2; dixiechick2000; Helen...
It may not be as big a win, but the Judges have managed to put into precedence some very telling points that can be used in future cases.
[BLM & USFS] could not prohibit cattle grazing on public lands designated as "critical habitat" for endangered species, but where there is no sign any endangered species is currently living on the federal land.

... (the judges) said there has to be a causal connection, something that causes death or injury, ...

Notice that the term is causal, not casual -- which latter term is what the ESA and their greenie supporters have been using to evidence their 'taking' doctrine.

Then there is this interesting 'observation':

"The very absence of a species from otherwise suitable habitat, to a biologist, is an indication of ongoing harm due to habitat degradation." Martin Taylor, Center for Biological Diversity
Guess we all better watch out that head-lice aren't declared endangered, 'cause we will all get busted for having shampoo.
19 posted on 01/24/2002 6:04:25 PM PST by brityank
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"The very absence of a species from otherwise suitable habitat, to a biologist, is an indication of ongoing harm due to habitat degradation."

This is like "global warming" where the absence of data supporting the theory is taken as evidence of the theory, ie, if it gets warmer it's global warming and if it gets colder it's global warming too. In this case, if there is a certain species there then it must be fenced off to protect the species, but if there is none of that species there then it must also be fenced off since??????

20 posted on 01/24/2002 6:07:35 PM PST by DugwayDuke
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