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Davey Crockett would be deemed an unenlightened redneck by today's elite!
1 posted on 01/23/2002 9:15:27 AM PST by Chapita (riverends)
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To: Chapita
Great post!
15 posted on 01/23/2002 10:50:44 AM PST by jo6pac
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To: Chapita
bump
18 posted on 01/23/2002 11:09:21 AM PST by billbears
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To: Chapita
You know, when I first started reading it I didn't know it was a reference to Davey Crockett, but I knew after a line or two that it had to have been written more than 100 years ago. No one today is this eloquent, not our highest-paid professors, not our savviest speech-writers. Hardly a man today can speak this way.
53 posted on 01/23/2002 12:39:33 PM PST by Anamensis
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To: Chapita
BTTT...

SR

61 posted on 01/23/2002 1:22:23 PM PST by sit-rep
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To: Chapita
Thanks for posting this. There were some erroneous references made to this on other threads a few day's ago, could've used it then. Blackbird.
69 posted on 01/23/2002 1:48:06 PM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: Chapita
rural legend?
76 posted on 01/23/2002 2:26:09 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: Chapita
All of this is beside the point. The major issue before us is this....

What exactly is a sockdolager ?

For instance, John Wilkes Boothe knew to time his assasination of Lincoln to the line in Our American Cousin....

"You sockdolagizing old mantrap !"

at which burst of pure hilarity the house would be rolling in the aisles, completely distracted.

This issue must be addressed.

80 posted on 01/23/2002 2:35:29 PM PST by Tokhtamish
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To: Chapita
This story has resonated well with MANY FReepers, from an FR Search for "yours to give" - match exact phrase...
5.7: Not Yours to Give
personal archives | Provided as courtesy by Charles Starr for Congress

One day in the House of Representatives, a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of the widow of a distinguished naval officer. Several beautiful speeches had been made in its support. The Speaker was just about to put the question when Mr. Crockett arose: "Mr. Speaker - I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the suffering of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this house, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living ...Posted on 1/23/02 10:15 AM Pacific by Chapita

5.7: Not Yours to Give
http://www.starr4congress.org | Philadelphia: Porter & Coates, 1884 | DAVEY CROCKETT

ne day in the House of Representatives, a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of the widow of a distinguished naval officer. Several beautiful speeches had been made in its support. The Speaker was just about to put the question when Mr. Crockett arose: "Mr. Speaker - I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the suffering of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this house, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living ...Posted on 8/20/01 1:03 AM Pacific by ATOMIC_PUNK

5.5: Not Yours To Give-Colonel David Crockett U.S. Congressman
Devvy's Project | 1884 with comment by Devvy Kidd 8/8/98 | Edward S Elliss with comments by Devvy Kidd

NOT YOURS TO GIVE From the Life of Colonel David Crockett Member of the U.S. Congress 1827-31 & 1832-35 Complied from The Life of Colonel David Crockett by Edward S. Ellis (Philadelphia: Porter & Coates, 1884) One day in the House of Representatives, a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of a widow of a distinguished naval officer. Several beautiful speeches had been made in its support. The Speaker was just about to put the question when Crockett arose: "Mr. Speaker - I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy ...Posted on 4/26/01 8:59 AM Pacific by CyberSpartacus

5.7: Not Yours To Give
Conservaive U.S.A. | 1884 | Col. David Crockett; US Representative from Tennessee

In the lobby of the House of Representatives when a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of a widow of a distinguished naval officer. Several beautiful speeches had been made in its support, rather . . . The Speaker was just about to put the question when Crockett arose: "Mr. Speaker -- I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the sufferings of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this House, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for ...Posted on 11/20/00 7:53 PM Pacific by rainingred

5.7: Not Yours to Give
ConservativeUSA | none | Davy Crockett

The Conservative Caucus Documents of Freedom Collection "Not Yours To Give" by Col. David Crockett US Representative from Tennesee Originally published in "The Life of Colonel David Crockett," by Edward Sylvester Ellis. One day in the House of Representatives a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of a widow of a distinguished naval officer. Several beautiful speeches had been made in its support. The speaker was just about to put the question when Crockett arose: "Mr. Speaker--I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the suffering of the living, ...Posted on 8/9/00 6:24 AM Pacific by OWK

5.5: Colonel David Crockett: "Not Yours To Give"
U.S. Rep. Ron Paul Website | Unknown | David Crockett

The Office of U.S. Rep. Ron Paul 203 Cannon HOB Washington, DC 20515 (202) 225-2831 Not Yours To Give Col. David Crockett US Representative from Tennessee Originally published in "The Life of Colonel David Crockett," by Edward Sylvester Ellis. Also available as a plain text file and as a .prc file for the PalmPilot. One day in the House of Representatives a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of a widow of a distinguished naval officer. Several beautiful speeches had been made in its support. The speaker was just about to put the question when Crockett ...Posted on 3/6/00 10:25 AM Pacific by Thanatos

5.4: Not Yours to Give -- Speech Before the House of Representatives by David (Davy) Crockett
Equal Time (http://www2.crosswinds.net/~equaltime/index.html) | 10/10/99

One day in the House of Representatives, a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of a widow of a distinguished naval officer. Several beautiful speeches had been made in its support. The Speaker was just about to put the question when Mr. Crockett arose:  "Mr. Speaker --- I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the suffering of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this house, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living ...Posted on 10/10/99 6:37 AM Pacific by Miles Bennel

5.7: FREEDOM AIN'T YOURS TO GIVE
Special to THE LIBERTARIAN ENTERPRISE | Bruce Elmore <mailto:wheelnut@flash.net>

Excuse me for even asking this, but I have some questions. I have been thinking about Freedom, and this thing we call Liberty. I have been thinking especially hard about these things since the formal beginning of Fascism in America this year. It seems to me, that I am living amongst a large bunch of candy assed suck ups who are asking themselves how much Freedom they should be asking the Government for. Forgive me, but I have a problem with the basic premise of the question. "Oh what a lovely day it is Mrs. Murphy. Tell me, do you ...Posted on 8/1/99 8:08 AM Pacific by nsmart

5.5: Not Yours to Give (From The Life of Colonel David Crockett)
The Freeman | 96 | Leonard Read

One day in the House of Representatives, a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of a widow of a distinguished naval officer. Several beautiful speeches had been made in its support. The Speaker was just about to put the question when Crockett arose: "Mr. Speaker — I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the sufferings of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this House, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living ...Posted on 7/20/99 7:43 AM Pacific by OWK

5.7: Freedom Ain't Yours To Give
1999 | Lurker

Freedom Ain't Yours To Give Excuse me for even asking this, but I have some questions. I have been thinking about Freedom, and this thing we call Liberty. I have been thinking especially hard about these things since the formal beginning of Fascism in America this month. It seems to me, that I am living amongst a large bunch of candy assed suck ups who are asking themselves how much Freedom they should be asking the Government for. Forgive me, but I have a problem with the basic premise of the question. "Oh what a lovely day it is Mrs. ...Posted on 7/12/99 11:11 PM Pacific by Lurker

5.7: NOT YOURS TO GIVE
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5.7: Freedom Ain't Yours To Give
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5.6: NOT YOURS TO GIVE - Davy Crockett
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5.7: Not Yours to Give
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5.7: Not Yours To Give
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92 posted on 01/23/2002 3:18:52 PM PST by RonDog
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Bump f/ bookmark
97 posted on 01/23/2002 4:17:09 PM PST by eloy
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To: doug from upland; ALOHA RONNIE; DLfromthedesert; PatiPie; flamefront; onyx; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Irma...
"One day in the House of Representatives, a bill was taken up appropriating money for the benefit of the widow of a distinguished naval officer. Several beautiful speeches had been made in its support. The Speaker was just about to put the question when Mr. Crockett arose:
'Mr. Speaker - I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the suffering of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this house, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not go into an argument to prove that Congress has no power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please to charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money. Some eloquent appeals have been made to us upon the ground that it is a debt due the deceased. Mr. Speaker, the deceased lived long after the close of the war; he was in office to the day of his death, and I have never heard that the government was in arrears to him.

'Every man in this House knows it is not a debt. We cannot, without the grossest corruption, appropriate this money as the payment of a debt. We have not the semblance of authority to appropriate it as charity. Mr. Speaker, I have said we have the right to give as much money of our own as we please. I am the poorest man on this floor. I cannot vote for this bill, but I will give one week's pay to the object, and, if every member of Congress will do the same, it will amount to more than the bill asks.'

He took his seat. Nobody replied. The bill was put upon its passage, and, instead of passing unanimously, as was generally supposed, and as, not doubt, it would but for that speech, it received but few votes, and of course was lost.

Later, when asked by a friend why he had opposed the appropriation, Crockett gave this explanation..."

Urban legend or true story, the central argument of Colonel Crockett's "Not Yours to Give" speech certainly applies to the current discussion about the allocation of federal tax dollars to the victims of 9/11, does it not?

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98 posted on 01/23/2002 4:23:08 PM PST by RonDog
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Search Continental Congress, Constitutional Convention, and 1st-42nd Congresses: 1774-1873

Enjoy!

100 posted on 01/23/2002 4:41:35 PM PST by michigander
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To: Chapita
I've read this once before. This is a great find again!!!
104 posted on 01/23/2002 6:24:32 PM PST by RaceBannon
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H.R. Journal--WEDNESDAY, April 2, 1828.

The bill from the Senate, [No. 111] entitled "An act for the relief of Mrs. Brown, widow of the late Major General Brown," was read the third time:

And on the question, "Shall the bill pass?"

The yeas and nays being desired by one-fifth of the members present,

Crockett voted NAY!

105 posted on 01/23/2002 6:36:14 PM PST by jo6pac
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To: Chapita; STARFAN,
Starfan, this is the e-mail I sent you!
123 posted on 01/24/2002 9:31:05 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: Chapita
Bump Congressman Crockett!

I donated money to the WTC victims!
My government forcing me to do it is a crime against nature!

163 posted on 01/29/2002 5:46:49 PM PST by higgmeister
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Would Davy have approved of the billions in Federal cash given to the families of the 9/11 disaster? (No flames please, it's just a question).
178 posted on 02/01/2002 5:28:03 PM PST by Paulus Invictus
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Bookmarked. True or not, the federal government should only appropriate monies that benefit all Americans.
193 posted on 02/04/2002 3:20:03 AM PST by 4CJ
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To: Chapita

bttt for Katrina "relief"


203 posted on 09/19/2005 7:56:45 AM PDT by Sir Gawain
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To: Chapita

True or not true - the message is quite clear. The constitution never envisaged the magnitude of todays federal government. Congressional liberties are killing this country.


204 posted on 09/19/2005 8:49:37 AM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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