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On Immigration, GOP is Duh
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| 1/23/02
| Don Feder
Posted on 01/22/2002 9:20:32 PM PST by traditionalist
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To: traditionalist
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Bush and his political strategist Karl Rove continue to pursue the illusive Hispanic vote, mesmerized by the fact that the president took 35 percent of that vote in 2000, compared to the 21 percent Dole got in 1996. They forget that Reagan received an even higher percentage in both of his campaigns, without pandering. << Helloooooooo...2/3rds of "Hispanics" voted AGAINST Bush (I betsa the 1/3rd who voted FOR Bush were either A. BORN in the United States and raised on american values, or B. LEGALIZED citizens who worked their butts off to assimulate and pursue the American dream)
Pandering DOES NOT WORK. Republicans, wake up and ENFORSE the platform on immigration control you've had for 120 years!
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posted on
01/22/2002 9:28:15 PM PST
by
BillyBoy
To: traditionalist
bttt
To: traditionalist
That policy is getting even more generous. And Republicans, of all people, are now playing Jolly Old St. Nick to huddled masses (legal and illegal), despite mounting evidence that immigration is poison for the party. The Stupid Party stumbles on.
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posted on
01/22/2002 9:33:28 PM PST
by
WRhine
To: Travis McGee
I agree with Don Feder that on immigration the GOP's policy is duh. So I expect things will continue to get a lot worse before they get better. Maybe in the long run that is what's needed to wake the American sheeple up to demanding the politicians stop pandering to immigrants and start sending back illegals. We're not at the crisis point where public opinion is going to have the effect it should. And if the GOP wants to transform itself into minority party its doing a heck of a better job than anything the Rats could do to it. Duh is the right word for what's happened after Sept 11th and on immigration, nothing has been learned and nothing's changed.
To: traditionalist
Unlike immigrants of the past, all too often the new immigrants aren't assimilating. Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., says: "There are too many coming in too quickly. And with multiculturalism and bilingualism in the schools, it's not a melting-pot mentality. It's a Bosnia mentality." What passes for common sense seems to be lost on the Bush Administration.
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posted on
01/22/2002 9:37:31 PM PST
by
WRhine
To: WRhine
Yep. Including the President speaking Spanish to Hispanics instead of talking to them in English like every other American. Don't think they're dumb not to know what pandering is when they see it. The Stupid Grand Old Party will keep shedding its base if it continues to wink and nod to conservatives while at the same time trying to outdo the Rats in food stamps and other social service programs for immigrants... Now that's a Duh right there.
To: WRhine
What passes for common sense seems to be lost on the Bush Administration.I wish I could say it better. I can't.
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posted on
01/22/2002 9:43:51 PM PST
by
carenot
To: traditionalist
Still, Bush and his political strategist Karl Rove continue to pursue the illusive Hispanic vote, mesmerized by the fact that the president took 35 percent of that vote in 2000, compared to the 21 percent Dole got in 1996. They forget that Reagan received an even higher percentage in both of his campaigns, without pandering. The difference between Reagan and Bush is that Reagan was nobodys fool.
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posted on
01/22/2002 9:44:14 PM PST
by
WRhine
To: goldstategop
Now that's a Duh right there.No, that's Dubya.
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posted on
01/22/2002 9:45:37 PM PST
by
carenot
To: BillyBoy
BTTT
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posted on
01/22/2002 9:45:43 PM PST
by
WRhine
To: goldstategop
And if the GOP wants to transform itself into minority party its doing a heck of a better job than anything the Rats could do to it. Duh is the right word for what's happened after Sept 11th and on immigration, nothing has been learned and nothing's changed. Well said!
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posted on
01/22/2002 9:47:20 PM PST
by
WRhine
To: goldstategop
Yep. Including the President speaking Spanish to Hispanics instead of talking to them in English like every other American. Don't think they're dumb not to know what pandering is when they see it. Great insight. I'd be surprised if most Hispanics did not see this as cynical pandering. It's not like they have never seen this before from the democrats. I sense the idiocy of Karl Rove in this.
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posted on
01/22/2002 9:55:17 PM PST
by
WRhine
To: traditionalist
If mass immigration isn't halted soon and illegals deported, in four to six years the Republicans are history. Congress, the Senate, and the Presidency will be the Democrats for many years to come.
To: BillyBoy
He's going to find that out at the polls in 2004, when Americans stay home. But I don't think that is what the deal is. From listening to a Mexican on the O Riley show tonight I think it has more to do with globalization and breaking the back and influence of the natural born American.
This Mexican told O Rielly that America is a nation of immigrants and that he, O Rielly was holding onto a past dream of America that is long gone. How very global of him eh? Maybe Bush wants to go down in history as the President that moved America into the global net. He thinks he will be thanked for that maybe. Fat chance.
It's been obvious for decades that even though there are some differences in the parties, they both subscribe to the death of the influence of the natural born American, and their Constitution, and the embrace of a global society. So they over ran us with third world immigrants, taxed us to death, and the push is really on right now to finish us off. We will be flooded with them over the next five years, absolutely flooded, ignorant, mallible masses with no idea of what's up.
I offer as evidence the fact that we have had the worst terrorist attack anywhere on earth in anyone's history, we lost more people in NY and DC than at Pearl Harbor, and yet, not one, not one congressman, not one politican, including our President has made one move to stop the flood, on the contrary, they are opening the flood gates.
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To: WRhine
It's too late.
Shunning the Hispanic vote will put Democrats in control for the next 50-100 years.
Adapt or perish.
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posted on
01/22/2002 10:11:01 PM PST
by
PRND21
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To: MissAmericanPie
The more immigrants that come here, the more will follow, simply because as they build their network, family members will come later. If they can't come legally - well who cares? There's no internal enforcement, so they just come illegally.
That's what the 245(i) scam was all about, giving amnesty to illegal relatives of legal residents. It's a cycle that perpetuates itself, apparently forever because neither party seems interested in stopping it.
For the Republicans, that means suicide.
To: MissAmericanPie;Barnacle
Great post MissAmericanPie. I feel sometimes like we are reliving the final days of Rome. Where the entire governmental system becomes so corrupt that even most politicians don't know its corrupt. How are the illegal aliens we are importing from Mexico any different than the mercenaries that Rome would hire to fight wars they didn't want to fight?
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posted on
01/22/2002 10:22:00 PM PST
by
WRhine
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