[RobbyS]

Talk about baloney. It would be interesting to read what you think it means, since you seem to lack any understanding of what we mean by Church.

[Unbeliever]

Talk about baloney. It would be interesting to read what you think it means, since you seem to lack any understanding of what we mean by Church.

869. "The Church is apostolic. She is built on a lasting foundation: 'the twelve APOSTLES of the Lamb' [Rev 21:14.]. She is indestructible (cf. Mt 16:18). She is upheld infallibly in the truth: Christ governs her through Peter and the other APOSTLES, who are PRESENT in their successors, the Pope and the college of bishops."

What does "PRESENT" mean?