[american colleen]

You forgot the debate regarding the meaning of "is" ... :-)

I think I posted this response actually on the wrong thread (you know the other one!) - but the "Virgin Mary" got my attention. I'm going to check around, but as far as I know, nothing (no words)in the Nicene Creed have changed since 340ish.

Talk to you later!

[Wordsmith]

Yeah, I've noticed but been avoiding the thread on the perpetual virginity of Mary. I wanted to avoid getting sucked in to more debate! Maybe you should post the Nicene Creed over there and highlight "Virgin Mary" just to stir things up!

As far as I know, the only language change in the Nicene Creed since the 4th century is the one that is so critical to the debates between Orthodox and Roman Catholics - the addition of the so-called filoque (sp?) The Creed as I quoted it says the Holy Spirit "proceedeth from the Father." I believe the Roman Catholic version of the Nicene Creed says "from the Father and the Son," which leads to what the Orthodox consider "dual-procession" doctrine and a diminishment of the Holy Spirit.

[Wordsmith]

Yikes, I just took a look at that thread. No way I'm going over there! Too hot for my tastes at the moment, and it looks like The_Reader_David is doing fine at upholding the Orthodox point of view.

Christ Bless!