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To: Iowegian; Thomas_More
Simple, when he married the Roman empire to his church he created something else, his new religion, which blended those 2 things together.

The Church belongs to Christ, as He states: "...I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it."

How do you propose the Church became Constantine's? How was he able to overcome the will of God? If, as you propose, Constantine managed this, how do you propose that he was able to deceive all of the Christians of the day in to believing that the Church was still Christ's?

I will gladly respond to reasoned arguments. Its hard for me to respond to accusations of wearing blinders.

319 posted on 01/19/2002 9:22:45 AM PST by Wordsmith
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To: Wordsmith
How do you propose the Church became Constantine's? How was he able to overcome the will of God?

OK, we are using common terms, but with seemingly different meanings. Please define "the Church". Also God allows sin and disobedience (which is anything against His will) to happen all the time, but He does not approve of it, Constantine is no exception.

320 posted on 01/19/2002 9:27:28 AM PST by Iowegian
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To: Wordsmith
How do you propose the Church became Constantine's? How was he able to overcome the will of God?

One need not overcome the will of God in order to usurp a physical organization. Nor does one need to overcome the will of God to lead others astray.

If, as you propose, Constantine managed this, how do you propose that he was able to deceive all of the Christians of the day in to believing that the Church was still Christ's?

Hmmm. Did IQ's drop suddenly - state religion, forced conversion at sword point - do these things ring a bell?

401 posted on 01/21/2002 5:04:13 AM PST by Havoc
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