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To: american colleen
Then he could murder and still be OK according to what you believe. Once saved, always saved, right? Are you going to judge him?

Nope sorry this is wrong. Jesus said by their fruit you shall know them. Constantine's actions (murder) tell me he wasn't "saved". What do his actions tell you?

317 posted on 01/19/2002 9:16:57 AM PST by Iowegian
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To: Iowegian
Constantine's actions (murder) tell me he wasn't "saved". What do his actions tell you?

You are presupposing Constantine murdered. You are attacking a strawman. I do not deny that he killed. He was a warrior king. Where is your evidence that he was a murderer? Or are you claiming that all killing is murder, in which case you are an absolute pacificist who does not believe in the potential justification of any killing, including the American war in Afghanistan and the application of the death penalty?

321 posted on 01/19/2002 9:29:38 AM PST by Wordsmith
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To: Iowegian
How can you think Constantine would have "fruit" - to have fruit you have to have "works", right? And as you think, works don't count, only faith.

So how did Constantine start his own religion?

323 posted on 01/19/2002 9:39:16 AM PST by american colleen
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