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To: Rightuvu
I want to blame Clinton for everything I can, too, but I won't do so in the face of proof to the contrary. That's intellectual suicide. Those who read the book will encounter proof that the casualties taken in Somalia were not the result of any action or inaction on Clinton's part.

Thank you for posting this. There were mistakes both at the strategic and tactical level up to and on 10/03/93. Clearly, the Clinton Administration at one point was going to pull out of Somalia and then made the decision to stay. The goals - to help establish a stable goverment, to counter the effects of the drought, etc. were well intentioned, but after reading some of the material "after the fact", Clinton did not seem to take advantage of people's expertise who had extensive experience in Somalia.

From a tactical perspective, those involved on 10/03/93 lamented not taking NVD's with them on the afternoon mission and there appeared to be a serious problem with the 5.56mm round not being able to knock down and keep down Somalis who were shot. One also got the impression that the QRF was not at a readiness state that would have offered quicker rescue of pinned down soldiers. Additionally, there was a breakdown in communication between the Delta Force and Rangers elements, with at one point the Army Rangerelement leader refusing to even talk with the Delta Force element leader. As a result, there were in effect two force elements that night. Consolidation may have helped both out.

13 posted on 01/17/2002 3:48:46 PM PST by Fury
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To: Fury
What I got from the movie was a strong appreciation for the courage and skill of these guys in an impossible situation, a non-stop firefight. The movie lets you draw your own conclusion as to the failures of the politicians, but the implication is there and inescapable - the soldiers were left hanging by the higher ups in DC.
14 posted on 01/17/2002 3:55:44 PM PST by Argus
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