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To: from occupied ga
You all make great points, which I mostly agree with, but the premiss that poor people make them selves poor thru life choices is not always true. Some times you can be stuck in a system were you have to remain broke for a extended period of time, because of circumstances out of youre hands.

And dont think for a moment the court system in the states doesnt, in a fasion, adjust penalties acording to circumstances surrounding a defendits life. If you work part time and go to school and you get a 2nd degree DWI, for example, youre fine will be $100 to $200, but if you are well off finically they will hit you up for the maximum $1,000.

And I talk from experience, I grew up poor and with a expensive disease, I have to take baby steps out of government programs towards being self reliant because medicare, SS, Student aid, etc. all trap you into a stupid reliance on them. Meaning if you can drop one and do you are not elegable for the rest, namely medicare, which you cant just stop needing. See, its hard to get a job with good medical coverage, even if youre qualified, because which insurance company will pick up a $346,000+ a year medical tab?

happy freeping, illbenice

20 posted on 01/14/2002 1:00:36 PM PST by illbenice
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To: illbenice
but the premiss that poor people make them selves poor thru life choices is not always true

I agree, of course it's not always true. There are exceptions on both sides (The Kennedy's who are rich, but never worked an honest day's labor in their lives, simply living on the plunder gather by bootlegger ancestor Joe come to mind) Likewise there are some poor people who work pretty darn hard, but on the whole how hard you work and how wisely (or foolishly) you spend your money determine your economic status.

I find disgusting the whole idea that the state (which when you come right down to it is just a collection of not very bright people who are driven much more than the rest of us by the need for power over others) should determine how the wealth of society is distributed. I find it particulary outrageous when the only role the state and its army of pompous arrogant bureaucrats had in creating wealth was to put hurdles in the way of productive elements of society.

21 posted on 01/15/2002 2:21:53 AM PST by from occupied ga
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