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but we were warned that our government would only work for a 'moral' people and that certainly doesn't describe US any more, does it? While most individuals seem to still have some morality, it's being beat back by those with power. We are rotting from the head down. There is nothing wrong with our Republic that can't be fixed. A lot is said about how our forefathers couldn't have known this or that would happen, blah blah....But I think they were true visionaries, they knew and wrote of the sort of entanglements we the people had to watch for in order to preserve this union, but they also state pretty clearly, it's up the the people. I think it's obvious the peolple have been way too lazy for too many decades. Blackbird.

Sorry I didn't get back to you on this last night. Got interrupted by life.

I think it's obvious the peolple have been way too lazy for too many decades. Blackbird.

I agree that we've become lazy, but I don't know that I'd go so far as to say 'most'individuals still have some morality. There's virtually no one left who doesn't do things that they themselves deem to be immoral, if you only consider that they go on paying taxes that buys things they find morally reprehensible. In just that one small item, we have been completely 'rotted' by those at the rotten head. And even though this tax is still 'voluntary', people keep right on paying it (knowing its wrong) because they don't have the faith and strength of their fathers to rebel against it. If 'most' didn't go along with it, it couldn't be rammed down the throats of the few who would stand against it.

You say there's nothing wrong with the Republic that can't be fixed and that its up to the people. I agree. I just don't have your faith that even a small percentage of the people will ever rise up and flatly refuse to adhere to the gazillions of unlawful laws that have deposed the Republic and replaced it with mobocracy. In today's world, 'most' don't even recognise the fact that so many of these laws ARE unlawful.