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BATF: Coerced Consent in Pinedale, Wyoming (Direct Link to Article)
Pinedale Roundup; Pinedale, Wyoming ^ | January 10, 2002 | Jason Mundy & Rob Shaul,editor

Posted on 01/13/2002 8:58:10 AM PST by Old Badger

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ATF Search - Coerced Consent
Man agrees to search at gunpoint
by Jason Mundy

ATF Search

At approximately 9:30 on a quiet Sunday morning last month, Bargerville resident Craig Storer woke to someone pounding so hard on his front door that it was "literally shaking the trailer." Running in his pajamas to look out the window, Mr. Storer saw a Deputy Sheriff's truck and a metallic silver vehicle parked in his driveway. Unknown to Mr. Storer, outside a swarm of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) agents and Sublette County Sheriff's deputies had been positioned at various locations around his bright blue trailer. Law enforcement officers were also positioned on Highway 191, leading toward the frontage road where Mr. Storer's trailer is located.

ATF agents and Sheriff's deputies were there to search Mr. Storer's trailer for illegal firearms. According to Sheriff's Detective, Paul Raftery, the Sheriff's office had information that Mr. Storer possessed automatic weapons and explosives. Because the Sheriff's office has no jurisdiction to enforce laws pertaining to illegal firearms, the ATF was contacted. The ATF began its own investigation of Mr. Storer, said Mr. Raftery.

The ATF and the Sheriff's deputies arrived at Mr. Storer's trailer without a search warrant.

According to Mr. Raftery, the ATF had been working with the Assistant U.S. Attorney and was in the process of getting a warrant, but it was the decision of Resident Agent in Charge, Gilbert Salinas of the ATF office in Cheyenne, to go ahead with the planned raid, without one.

Jeans still in his hand, Mr. Storer opened the door of the trailer leading outside to a small front porch. What he saw was the muzzle of a pistol pointing directly at his head. His first thought was to back up.

"I thought I was being robbed," said Mr. Storer.

Officers began shouting orders for Mr. Storer to turn around. As he did, he caught sight of two other men outside a small window pointing pistols in his direction. According to Mr. Storer, none of the men who had guns pointed at him identified themselves as law enforcement officers.

One of the ATF agents ordered Mr. Storer to stand face against a nearby wall with his hands on his head, and then proceeded to search him.

"At the time I still didn't realize that this was ATF," he said.

The agent then asked who was in the house and Mr. Storer called out to his girlfriend, who was in the back bedroom.

"They told me they were there to search the house. I asked then if they had a warrant," said Mr. Storer. They did not. An ATF agent instead presented Mr. Storer with a consent form to sign allowing the ATF agents and the Sheriff's deputies to search his trailer.

Mr. Storer, still in his pajamas and his hands on his head, surrounded by armed officers, was given an option. He and his girlfriend, who was wearing a t-shirt and little else, could wait outside in the cold until the ATF could obtain a warrant on a Sunday morning, or he could just sign the consent.

Mr. Storer was furious that both law enforcement agencies arrived to search his trailer with no warrant, based on information provided to the ATF and deputies by informants. He said if they ATF was keeping surveillance on him and had received warnings about supposed illegal weapons, they should have gotten a warrant.

"This sort of think happened in Nazi Germany," said Mr. Storer.

" My girlfriend was freaking out. I'm thinking do I sign or don't I? I don't owe them anything. I haven't done anything wrong."

Mr. Storer, still at gunpoint, decided to sign the consent form.

Once they had consent, agents began asking Mr. Storer if he had any illegal weapons. They wanted to know what guns he had, how many guns he had, and where they were located. They asked him if he had or had made any silencers. For the next twenty minutes ATF agents and Sheriff's deputies searched the trailer. They rummaged through boxes, examined gun cases and rifled through shelves looking for illegal firearms and parts kits that could convert guns from semi-automatic to fully automatic.

What they found were a couple of shotguns, two semi-automatic assault rifles ( a replica of an AK-47 and an M-16) a 9mm Berreta pistol, a .50 caliber single-shot, long-range rifle and a few other standard field rifles. All the guns found were legal. However, the .50 caliber did raise some eyebrows with ATF agents, said Mr. Storer.

"I've shot rounds through a car hood from a mile away with this gun," said Mr. Storer, as he displayed the rifle. The length of the gun is about 3 feet long, painted camouflage and looks menacing. Mr. Storer said there is a movement by the US government to classify the gun as a destructive weapon, which could make it illegal to purchase, even as a parts kit.

But the ATF did not confiscate the gun, which they had the legal authority to do under new anti-terrorism laws passed after Sept. 11. Mr. Storer readily admitted that he had bought the gun as a parts kit from a dealer, who he thought, had been arrested earlier for having 32 unregistered machine guns.

As the search continued, one sheriff's deputy emerged from the back bedroom and walked into where Mr. Storer, his girlfriend and a few agents and deputies were sitting, carrying a small bottle containing a white powder.

"They actually asked me if it was Anthrax," said Mr. Storer. Instead of Anthrax, the powder was cretonne, a dietary supplement for weightlifters, said Mr. Storer. The bottle and powder were taken and have not been returned by Sheriff's Deputies," he said.

After the search was conducted, which did not turn up anything illegal, both agencies vacated the trailer, leaving Mr. Storer angered and dumbfounded at what just happened.

"One of the agents told me as he was leaving that it must of been one of my doper friends that turned me in. That really pissed me off."

Mr. Storer has no prior convictions in Wyoming and said that his record is completely clean, except for a DUI a couple of years ago. He emphasized how frightening it was that a government agency could barge in his home and intimidate him into signing a consent to search form simply on the claims of an informant.

"My home is my sovereignty. My entire soul, everything I have in this world was bared to Sublette County and the Federal Government, legally," he concluded.

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From the pages of
The Pinedale Roundup
Volume 96, Number 15 - January 10, 2002
brought to you online by Pinedale Online


Opinion

by Rob Shaul, Editor

Jack-booted Thugs

Jack-booted Thugs?

Craig Storer's description of the Sheriff and ATF raid on his home last month is chilling. First, I find it incredible that law enforcement officers began the search without a search warrant.

Second, the Sheriff and ATF conducted a raid of this magnitude with obviously scant information and justification is frightful.

Finally, the fact that the Sheriff and the ATF seem to be pointing fingers at each other for this incident is shameless.

Concerning the search warrant, the officers say they were in the process of getting one, but were afraid Mr. Storer might flee, so they conducted the raid without one. I'm not sure I believe them. Perhaps the ATF couldn't find a judge who would grant a search warrant based on the scant information they had about Mr. Storer - so they decided to coerce a consent search instead. We're going to follow up with the U.S. Attorney to see if indeed a search warrant was in the process.

Based on Mr. Storer's description of the events, he has a good legal argument that his consent to the search was coerced. The Sheriff's Deputies and ATF agents may have seriously violated Mr. Storer's civil rights.

I'm disappointed in Sheriff Hank Ruland for this debacle. In his press release and subsequent interview, Sheriff Ruland indicated that because his deputies and the ATF agents found no illegal guns in Mr. Storer's house, it was no big deal. But it is a big deal. Before waking someone up early on a Sunday morning with a swarm of officers waving guns around, you'd think law enforcement would be very sure it was going to find something. This kind of heavy-handed law enforcement isn't supposed to happen in America.

Mr. Ruland also failed to mention in his press release or interview that the deputies and ATF agents didn't have a search warrant before they conducted the raid. This is a major omission.

The ATF won't talk to us. The Sheriff's department points fingers at the feds for making the final call on the decision to go with the raid.

Ultimately, the responsibility rests with Sheriff Ruland as the elected official for law enforcement in Sublette County. He owes Mr. Storer and his constituents an explanation.

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To: John R. (Bob) Locke
The really sad part about this topic is the small number of people who have posted their outrage here on this thread

I don't comment on every outrage I read, especially when the better versed have expressed opinions similar to mine.

Yes, this troubles me, right in line with the ". . .then you won't mind if we search your car" that seems to come with so many traffic stops. We are being conditioned that a refusal to a consent to search is an admission of guilt.

61 posted on 01/14/2002 10:02:33 AM PST by Flyer
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To: Old Badger
The criminals with badges strike again.
The sad part is that they are supposedly doing all this in the name of "public safety".
From what I've seen, I have a lot less to worry about from criminals than I do from these leo's...
I can defend myself against a criminal, doing so against these clowns is a lot more costly (no matter how it turns out).

And they have the nerve to call themselves Americans...
62 posted on 01/14/2002 10:38:45 AM PST by freefly
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To: John R. (Bob) Locke
I think we are indeed in trouble. I've run across all too many FReepers who insist that anyone shot or harassed by FLEOs "had it coming".
63 posted on 01/14/2002 11:04:42 AM PST by alpowolf
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To: John R. (Bob) Locke
The really sad part about this topic is the small number of people who have posted their outrage here on this thread. If this doesn't seriously offend the sensibilities of a large number of FR posters, then we're in bigger trouble than I thought.
Not to worry, there's plenty of outrage. One poster here say's this should fall into the laps of Veterans to resolve. Being a Veteran, and quite tired of preaching to the choir only to be lambasted by someone calling themselves conservative, what exactly should us Veterans do about these situations? Can the rest of you stand the sight of that much blood? Because the streets will have to run red with it. This kind of crap will not be solved at the voting booth. It will be solved in our own front door foyers. As he shakes his head ruefully....Blackbird.
65 posted on 01/14/2002 11:21:28 AM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: from occupied ga
I think we should just give the police the keys to our houses, for our safety.
66 posted on 01/14/2002 12:46:33 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: BlackbirdSST
Go to HERE and read about Veterans for Constitutional Restoration. We mean to have our Constitution back as the Supreme Law of the Land. We mean to have government bound by the chains of the Constitution for once and all!
67 posted on 01/14/2002 1:06:26 PM PST by dcwusmc
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To: John R. (Bob) Locke
The really sad part about this topic is the small number of people who have posted their outrage here on this thread. If this doesn't seriously offend the sensibilities of a large number of FR posters, then we're in bigger trouble than I thought.

Outrage BTTT! Outraged, but no longer surprised..;( Guess I'm waiting for the revolution.

Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. - John Kennedy

68 posted on 01/14/2002 1:37:38 PM PST by Sequitur
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To: dcwusmc
Bookmarked for what appears at first glance to be interesting. If what you state is true, then you'll find me hard to keep up with. Thanks much. Blackbird.
69 posted on 01/14/2002 1:43:29 PM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: Thornwell Simons
"ATF is a bunch of incompetent rejects from all the other, good agencies..."

Can you name one of those 'good' agencies? - All I can think of are Thugs, like FBI, CIA, and park police.

70 posted on 01/14/2002 1:43:41 PM PST by editor-surveyor
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To: Sequitur
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible
will make violent revolution inevitable.
- John Kennedy
# 68 by Sequitur

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Teddy fell pretty far from the tree, didn't he?

71 posted on 01/14/2002 2:27:48 PM PST by exodus
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To: John R. (Bob) Locke
bump
72 posted on 01/14/2002 2:53:10 PM PST by Old Badger
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To: Old Badger
Thanks for your persistence, Badger. This is an article that needed posting. If those stumblebum jerkoffs at BATF don't get reined in soon, they're going to start a civil war.
73 posted on 01/14/2002 3:14:46 PM PST by Twodees
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To: dcwusmc
Scoped the whole site, a very noble cause. I guess if anyones going to get it done it'll be us. Daunting indeed. I tried to investigate the "Join" process and got no further. If you alert ( I believe the term is Freepmail?) me when membership is open, I'll check back. Blackbird.
74 posted on 01/14/2002 3:18:05 PM PST by BlackbirdSST
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To: exodus
Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable. - John Kennedy # 68 by Sequitur ************************

Teddy fell pretty far from the tree, didn't he?

71 posted on 1/14/02 3:27 PM Pacific by exodus

Yeah, well. He knows now he's obligated to implement the new communist manifesto, elst he find himself conviently in "someone's" cross-hairs. I just wonder who's giving the orders, cause apparently it's being held to the heads of our entite political structure. After all, it is THEY who should be ultimately place a cease and desist on these rogue alphabet agengies. Legistlative, exective, judicial. They're all selling us out. (sic)

75 posted on 01/14/2002 3:24:47 PM PST by Sequitur
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To: Old Badger;exodus
bump for liberty; thanks for the post & the ping
76 posted on 01/14/2002 6:49:32 PM PST by Pistias
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To: Travis McGee
I think we should just give the police the keys to our houses, for our safety.

This would just unnecessarily complicate things. After all, they can just break down your door now with (legal) impunity. Why give them something complex like keys when it wouldn't be nearly as satisfying for them?

77 posted on 01/15/2002 2:37:35 AM PST by from occupied ga
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To: Old Badger; Travis McGee; Squantos; Poohbah
What they found were a couple of shotguns, two semi-automatic assault rifles ( a replica of an AK-47 and an M-16) a 9mm Berreta pistol, a .50 caliber single-shot, long-range rifle and a few other standard field rifles. All the guns found were legal. However, the .50 caliber did raise some eyebrows with ATF agents, said Mr. Storer.

"I've shot rounds through a car hood from a mile away with this gun," said Mr. Storer, as he displayed the rifle. The length of the gun is about 3 feet long, painted camouflage and looks menacing. Mr. Storer said there is a movement by the US government to classify the gun as a destructive weapon, which could make it illegal to purchase, even as a parts kit.

A .50 cal single shot 'raises eyebrows' now?

Bullsh**. Sounds like I should get heavily involved in the .50 cal shooting community while I still can.

And the destructive power of a firearm is now measured in being able to penetrate a car hood at a mile?

Looks like all those hunting rifles are VERBOTEN to zee government. Zere is no LEGITIMATE ZPORTING PURPOZE to zuch a rifle, State Subject #78199288309.

78 posted on 01/15/2002 11:08:00 AM PST by Lazamataz
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To: editor-surveyor
"ATF is a bunch of incompetent rejects from all the other, good agencies..."

Can you name one of those 'good' agencies? - All I can think of are Thugs, like FBI, CIA, and park police.

I had an uncle whose high school trades courses were in printshop, back in the days when that meant printing presses and ink on your hands, not just a computer editing program. Later, he paid his own way through college with the GI Bill and after-school work at a job printers, it was a trade he enjoyed as much as some folks do their hobbies. Accordingly, he was a natural to work with the Secret Service on investigations of counterfeit printing operations, particularly counterfeit money. He had little interest in the USSS executive protection role, though was frequently *borrowed* for such assignments, as he was both an excellent shot and one of those large, tall fellas just right for performing duties as a human shield for those he was assigned to protect. But his heart was really in the other side of his agency's work.

When I went off to the Army in the mid-1960s, we spent most of a week together on a fishing trip, and he told me a few stories that made clear his very real pride he felt in his agency and those he worked with [though his opinion of Mr. Hoover's feebies was not favourable.] He made me the suggestion that after my four years with the military, if not inclined toward a military career, I might follow the course he'd taken, if not to the same agency, since my interests were different from his. So I asked him which ones he might have chosen, had he not gone the route he did.

He said there were only two that met his standards. One was the Postal Inspection Service, now another federal joke, but then one of the real success stories within the federal system. The other was the Border Patrol, again, now a slight shadow of what it once was, but in his time, those who wore that badge were often the only thing representing the law of the United States for a hundred miles of where they stood. It was different in his day, and I'm glad he didn't live to see the disrepute the agencies he tried so hard to be worthy of become something he would have despised.

He was at my dad's funeral when my old man's best friend, the local sheriff, told me I had a job waiting with his department when I got out of the Army. I believe my uncle Denny was prouder of me that day than he ever was of his own two sons, who did not follow his life's path.

I hold cops, federal and otherwise, to the same standards that I learned from him. There are not many who can stand up to that comparison, but those who do deserve the respect and admiration they've earned the hard way.

-archy-/-

79 posted on 01/15/2002 11:13:02 AM PST by archy
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To: John R. (Bob) Locke
I wonder if it's a lack of outrage, or just battle fatigue.

These "incidents" seem to happen on a daily basis. At this point it's almost not worth discussing so much as just keeping handy a weapon that will penetrate government issue body armor.

80 posted on 01/15/2002 11:26:52 AM PST by Doctor Doom
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