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Enron and the Clintonites
The Weekly Standard - (The Daily Standard) ^ | David Brooks

Posted on 01/12/2002 9:29:12 PM PST by oioiman

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To: big bad easter bunny
LOL!

Check out this little tidbit from today's Washington Post:

"Enron officials later expressed elation at the results of the Kyoto conference. An internal memo said the Kyoto agreement, if implemented, would "do more to promote Enron's business than almost any other regulatory initiative outside of restructuring the energy and natural gas industries in Europe and the United States."
ROFLMAO!
41 posted on 01/13/2002 3:40:23 AM PST by Hugh Akston
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To: hogwaller
See my tidbit right above for some evidence that they didn't. Bush kinda stomped out Kyoto, remember?

Still, asking someone to prove a negative is kind of silly. One could make all sorts of hints of impropriety about anyone and then say "if you can't disprove it, shut up". The onus is on the one trying to say that there was impropriety to give the proof.

42 posted on 01/13/2002 3:45:03 AM PST by Hugh Akston
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To: hogwaller
You'll be hard pressed to convince the party-blind. It's all "saints vs sinners" and "your team are scoundrels, my team can do no wrong" to them. It's sort of like the kid who walks into a diner and sees his favorite professional wrestling hero laughing and eating lunch with his "arch-enemy." The kid says, "How can you eat lunch with this guy? He's an evil cheater and he hates you!" The kid doesn't realize it's all staged. The problem in politics, though, is that alot of the "lesser lights" still think they're fighing for a good cause. Even they don't see the "Inner Party." Waxman probably thinks he's fighting the evil republicans and doesn't see that Clinton and Bush are virtually indistinguishable, save for the surface presentation. How will we ever get folks to realize that it's bigger than party politics and that party politics is little more than a distraction to keep us occupied. (Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!)
43 posted on 01/13/2002 3:46:50 AM PST by KirkandBurke
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To: oioiman
ON JULY 5, 1995, Enron Corporation donated $100,000 to the Democratic National Committee. Six days later, Enron executives were on a trade mission with Commerce Secretary Mickey Kantor to Bosnia and Croatia. With Kantor's support, Enron signed a $100 million contract to build a 150-megawatt power plant.

I think that's got to be a mistake -- "1995" should be "1996," because Kantor only became Commerce Secretary after Ron Brown's fatal flight of Apr. 3, 1996. Important to get these details right in such a politically charged matter.

44 posted on 01/13/2002 4:03:03 AM PST by aristeides
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To: oioiman; spectre; alamo-girl; fred mertz; plummz; uncle bill
Enron president Joseph Sutton was on the trip to Bosnia during which Brown lost his life in a plane crash (Sutton was not on Brown's plane at the time).

This gets even more interesting. Sutton didn't miss the trip, like that head of DynCorp. He was on it, but, like Ira Sockowitz, he managed not to be on the fatal flight. And the article tells us Enron executives remained interested enough in Bosnia and Croatia to go on Kantor's trip a couple of months later.

45 posted on 01/13/2002 4:05:52 AM PST by aristeides
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To: Diogenez
Seems to me I have read some place within the past couple of days that Ken Bentsen, Dem congressman from Houston and Lloyd Bentsen's son, has been a big recipient of Enron money. If Ken Bentsen has been so connected, Lloyd Bentsen's possible connections with Enron deserve investigation, I think.
46 posted on 01/13/2002 4:10:26 AM PST by aristeides
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To: aristeides
Marked for later action. Waxman, the reformer,needs to hear about this!!!
47 posted on 01/13/2002 4:19:45 AM PST by meenie
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To: oioiman

The clintons, Ron Brown, Robert Rubin, Vernon Jordan, Robert Strauss, and Enron . . . and Helen Thomas

Q ERTY1 + Q ERTY4 + Q ERTY6

= rodham-clinton-DNC-media corruption REALITY CHECK bump!


48 posted on 01/13/2002 4:37:11 AM PST by Mia T
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To: hogwaller
You can't prove a negative, and one should not have to. Before making allegations, one should have the courtesy and integrity to meet some burden of proof.
50 posted on 01/13/2002 5:49:44 AM PST by Skeptical constituent
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To: hogwaller
I think your last sentence hit the nail on the head. Enron's Board of Directors failed in their responsibilities all around. It's the board's job to watch out for the shareholders by governing management and making sure company policy is sane, neither of which happened in this case.

Exactly and that has been a big problem for a while now. Add to that the accounting problem (wouldn't you love to be the insurance firm who wrote a E&O policy for AA?) and that's all this story really amounts to.

53 posted on 01/13/2002 6:28:50 AM PST by Fury
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To: hogwaller
You claim Bush is as dirty as Clinton, yet you provide no facts. Show some comparisons of corrupt behavior. What has Bush done to compare with selling national security secrets in exchange for cold hard cash in order to maintain a base of power? Has Bush sold access on trade missions? Has Bush pardoned anyone in exchange for cash? Are there any "more than questionable" deaths surrounding Bush? How many people with knowledge of Bush's deeds have mysteriously taken their own lives? How many women have come foward to accuse Bush of rape and/or sexual harrassment? I guess if FBI files on Bush's political foes end up in his office the press will give him a pass as they did Clinton? I'm also not aware of there being a criminal refferral on Bush at the time of the election, as was with Clinton in 1992, but then again if the press dont care it aint news. Please, just give me one Bush situation that compares with the disgrace known as the Clinton administration??
54 posted on 01/13/2002 6:30:53 AM PST by marcde
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To: oioiman
I sent this to my lefty CA cousin. I have sent him so many articles like this, I think he's not speaking to me anymore. lol
56 posted on 01/13/2002 6:38:35 AM PST by Ditter
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To: dagman
It is time to take a hammer to the tired arse Lib-spew that this is anything like Whitewater.

Copy that 'The G man'?

57 posted on 01/13/2002 6:39:17 AM PST by _Jim
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To: oioiman
It is used to lure government into bed with private commercial interests. That's not an effect conservatives should cheer.

They've been going at it like rabbitts for decades.

58 posted on 01/13/2002 6:39:45 AM PST by vmatt
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To: hogwaller
Bush is just as dirty, and you either need to accept that fact, or just stay away from facts, as they seem to get you upset.

Sure sure sure - from what?

Sliding into first base while Managing General Partner for the Texas Rangers?

I'll buy that ...

60 posted on 01/13/2002 6:51:11 AM PST by _Jim
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