Posted on 01/11/2002 10:44:30 PM PST by LloydofDSS
Jan 11, 2002 Widow's Home Seized After Son's Arrest for Drug Possession The Associated Press ATHENS, Ga. (AP) - Police have seized the house of an 82-year-old widow because they say she knew her son dealt drugs there and did nothing to stop him. Fannie Gresham's small home was seized Thursday under a state law allowing authorities to confiscate property linked to the illegal drug trade. Authorities also arrested her 50-year-old son, Tommie "Top Dollar" Gresham, on a drug charge after he allegedly dropped several rocks of crack cocaine and fled. Police records show 29 incidents of drug activity at the address since 1992 and authorities say drug dealers were caught numerous times fetching drugs from the house for street sales. Based on that, and police claims that the elder, widowed Gresham was helping her son's alleged operation, Superior Court Judge Stephen Boswell issued a court order in December allowing the seizure. Boswell gave Fannie Gresham 14 days to move her belongings. Her attorney, Jim Smith, likened the seizure to the widespread illegal taking of property and land from blacks that he says tarnishes America's past. "They have never seized any drugs in this house. This lady is not accused of a single thing," he said. Police predicted more such seizures as they crack down on the drug trade in the city's troubled neighborhoods. A hearing on the seizure has been scheduled in February.
re: Social Programs, yes, eliminate most. Take care of those who CANNOT work, do not help those who WILL not work.
Case would never get to Supremes. Any True Bill so charging would be estopped and struck by state courts or federal district courts on Defendant's emergency motion in matter of moments. Courts do not like prosecutors "playing games" and this would be clearly seen as such.
In addition, any such prosecutorial action would open gmvt to "abuse of prosecution" civil action immediately.
Reality is that, like it or not, abortion is legal. We can pee into wind all day saying it is not, but until we elect people to change law, all we are doing is deluding ourselves.
Considering that 98% of the country would never actually assent to such an idea, do you have any actual solutions?
I could see the WOD if it could stop the problem but it only seems to be part of the problem. We have INS agents getting rich bringing drugs into the US, one was just arrested and got a 2 year sentence for that. I can see controlling who and what is brought over our borders but I can't see going after cancer patients buying pot to control their pain or really any drugs produced inside the US. It's silly now here with the spray paint locked up securely so only adults can buy it. The paint inhalors would be better off if they could buy pot because the paint eliminates their brains very quickly, within no time they're on SSI and Medicaid for epilepsy and all sorts of problems.
We can pee into wind all day saying it is not, but until we elect people to change law, all we are doing is deluding ourselves.
You delude yourself that such inalienable rights can be changed by even amendments. Our rights to life liberty and property cannot be prohibited. - Period. -- We give various levels of government the powers to regulate certain public aspects of the above rights, [and criminal violations of them] but under a constitutional republic, such governments could never be given the power to prohibit such rights.
They are inalienable.
You have to understand the layout of the city of Athens. You have the Univ. of Georgia, Downtown Athens, and then the peripherals.
Surrounding Downtown are a lot of older homes, most of them occupied by black elderly people who worked at the local poultry and manufactering plants for years.
Now, Athens is trying to expand. Two years ago a civic center was built that backs up against a lot of that older residential property. The city needs that residential property for parking garages, restaurants, etc.
They are slowly condeming or confiscating those pieces of property to expand the downtown and Univ. of GA property.
It is in the "best interest" of the community ya' know.
Get up in the morning, feed the baby goat a bottle, put on the coffee, drink half the pot of coffee while checking the news on FR.
Then you have to got to the grocery store, come back and work on the fence line, and get back home before dark. Then you start all over again, feed the animals, give the little goat a bottle, drink some ....
I'm serious though about the Athens downtown property. There is someone in the "powers that be" that wants that property. I'll keep everyone posted on whose hands it actually ends up in (and what it turns into).
Selling them something is not victimizing them . If you don't want them buying drugs, teach them not to.
No. I believe in doing what is right. Apart from what is right, there are no "solutions".
Please do. Hemp and marijuana are the same plant (Cannabis sativa).
Marijuana (illegal) is the leaves, flowers and bud of the plant. Hemp (legal) the stem & stalk and products thereof.
Since it's impossible to grow hemp without the unlawful flowers & buds, Hemp cultivation is currently prohibited in the US.
What passes for hemp now-days is Abaca (manila), Agave (sisal), and Jute. None of which could be cultivated in the temperate colonies.
So until the US developed trade with Spain, Mexico, and British-India :
Hemp == Marijuana
Unfortunately the facts show otherwise. Drug addiction, like tobacco addiction is most often aquired in the early teen years. Check DOJ, Mayo, DFAF or other studies. Regarding paying for health costs, you may not agree with it, but Medicare and Medicaid are laws of the land... and their costs are incredible.
Hmmm... "the average age when a kid gets hooked is 12" then "most often aquired in the early teen years"
These two setences are in contradiction and show considerable wobble on your part. From what I've read, these "studies" include the use of tobacco, alchohol and marijuana all as the start of "drug use" These drugs don't usually fry the brain, and only alchohol and tobacco seem to cause much physical illness, heck the cost of tobacco illness is more than offset because the users die off quicker than people who don't use. Looks to me like your argument is all wet.
I grew up in the 50's and 60's and the difference in our access to each other through internet communication now, compared with what we had access to then is astounding. Given a few more years, unless politicians manage to shut down the internet, the political class will have to start to fear for their jobs. That's how things will change, I think.
Thankyou for explaining it so well to the above numbskull . Aslo, it was not a comic book where I read that George Washington took opium(laudenum) daily.
The 82 year old woman is not very bright, she should admit to knowing about the drugs, plead guilty, and then take a life sentence in prison, where she and her family will save many thousands of dollars in nursing home expenses, to be paid by the taxpayers.
Anyone considering going into a nursing home, should think seriously of going out and getting some drugs, calling the police on yourself, and then living free with free medical care the rest of your life in prison, which is much better than most of the nursing homes I have seen, and its free!
You're welcome.
Aslo, it was not a comic book where I read that George Washington took opium(laudenum) daily.
Yeah, I figured that's where you were going with that, Laudanum was a very common pain-killer up until 1909.
I am assuming the above was a "tougue in check" reply. The old lady is not being charged with anything, so there is nothing she can plead "guilty" to.
Her home is being seized because of her son's alleged activities. Her home is being accused of a crime.
"Botanically, the genus Cannabis is composed of several variants. Although there has been a long-standing debate among taxonomists about how to classify these variants into species, applied plant breeders generally embrace a biochemical method to classify variants along utilitarian lines. Cannabis is the only plant genus that contains the unique class of molecular compounds called cannabinoids. Many cannabinoids have been identified, but two preponderate: THC, which is the psychoactive ingredient of Cannabis, and CBD, which is an antipsychoactive ingredient. One type of Cannabis is high in the psychoactive cannabinoid, THC, and low in the antipsychoactive cannabinoid, CBD. This type is popularly known as marijuana. Another type is high in CBD and low in THC. Variants of this type are called industrial hemp."
[Hemp and Marijuana: Myths & Realities (Abstract Version); David P. West, Ph.D.]
They don't like guys who can afford good lawyers. There's a guy in Malibu though who could attest (if they hadn't murdered him) that they will take the multimillionaire's property by force if it's a nice enough place.
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