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To: gcruse
Man, talk about blaming the victim.

Wrong. I am not blaming him for the actions of his ex-wife and the courts. I am blaming him for pulling the trigger and forever robbing his children of any chance of having a father, even if it is a few years later that that is accomplished. Big difference.

86 posted on 01/14/2002 4:15:55 PM PST by riley1992
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To: riley1992
 I am blaming him for pulling the trigger and forever
robbing his children of any chance of having a father

Even if he sat in prison the whole time?

90 posted on 01/14/2002 4:27:42 PM PST by gcruse
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To: gcruse
I agree.

Classic example. My fiance got his girlfriend pregnant before he left on an overseas deployment (he was in the Army). Okay, his fault. In any case, when he found out she was pregnant, he immediately did the right thing and asked her to marry him. He flew her overseas and they were married. Now, I must add here that she is a techie who has always made more than double his salary -- especially, when he was in the military. He returned briefly from deployment for the birth of his daughter and then finished out his assignment. When he returned from deployment he pulled strings to be stationed where his wife was located. However, when he returned home, his wife decided that she "didn't want to be married -- she was too independent" and she divorced him. She is a big time liberal. Then, she promptly moved to other side of the United States. Being in the Army, he did not have control to follow her and he was in no position to fight for his rights. So, he was basically stuck paying child support for a daughter that he never got to see. At one point, after he got out of the Army and into grad school, she decided she wanted him back. Probably, because she figured that he would be making a decent salary down the road. So, he tried to make it work again. However, she decided again that she didn't really want to be married. She made comments like "a truly independent woman doesn't need a man". When that didn't work out she moved again to the other side of the United States. Meanwhile, he was finishing grad school and had no income but was still paying child support and again lost all access to his daughter. He is still paying child support even though she currently makes twice his salary. He is living in a tiny one-bedrom apartment and she lives in a new home in California. She doesn't ever offer to put his daughter on a plane to come out and see him but she demands to know "when he will spend the money to fly out and see his daughter". He has been depressed and anxious about this for five years now. What has been done to him is criminal.

93 posted on 01/14/2002 4:34:57 PM PST by New Girl
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