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While Clinton diddled
salon.com ^ | 1/10/02 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 01/10/2002 7:38:19 AM PST by constitoot

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To: ungullible
Bill Clinton = Big hat, no cattle.

George W. Bush = Small hat, lots of cattle.

21 posted on 01/10/2002 9:27:01 AM PST by bigdog
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To: ungullible
Are you a sick person?? If you agree with that writer you need to haul @ss outta here! If you don't agree with it you had better say so!!!!!

Klintoonazi was the worst M.F. in the history of this country and YES, HE IS RESPONSIBLE for all the terrorist disasters that hit this country WHILE he was President AND the 9/11 tragedy,as well....ANYBODY WITH A BRAIN KNOWS THAT!!

You have either sawdust or cr@p in your noggin if you like klintoon!

22 posted on 01/10/2002 9:42:19 AM PST by crazykatz
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To: constitoot
Bumping for a later read!
23 posted on 01/10/2002 9:47:40 AM PST by AuntB
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To: crazykatz
So... what exactly did bush do to prevent 9/11? There are some that say Bush knew all about it, and let it happen so he could have an excuse to invade afghanistan.

It's all very strange.

24 posted on 01/10/2002 9:50:29 AM PST by ungullible
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To: ungullible
There are some that say Bush knew all about it, and let it happen so he could have an excuse to invade afghanistan.

Most of us can recognize a DUmmy when we see one. You must be looking for the Green Party meeting. It's down the web, ten sites way to the left.

25 posted on 01/10/2002 9:55:23 AM PST by ZeitgeistSurfer
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To: ungullible
"There are some that say Bush knew all about it..."

There are also some who say Barbara Olson caused the crash into the Pentagon. There are also some who say that the world is flat, or that men didn't really land on the moon, and there are even some who say that Bill Clinton was a great President. Fortunately, anyone with an IQ greater than the average house pet realizes that these are at best delusions, and at worst blatant falsehoods.

26 posted on 01/10/2002 10:15:13 AM PST by Exeter
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To: ungullible
So... what exactly did bush do to prevent 9/11? There are some that say Bush knew all about it, and let it happen so he could have an excuse to invade afghanistan.

It's all very strange.

Yeah, i can see how a president of the United States of America would want to invade a small country with no resources and plenty of needy people with virtually no skills.

Oh wait. I can't. If Bush had known in advance about 9/11, he would have gone on TV and told us about it, and it would never have happened since we all would have been paying more attention. Oh yeah, and Bush would be even more of a hero for preventing it, once the terrorists were captured and the scope of their plan became known.

I would love to find out who "some" are in your above quote. Who are they? Democrat activists? Conspiracy theorists? Miss Cleo? I mean, in order to make a judgment like "It's all very strange.", I would have to know that these people were credible, that their story was true(i.e., that Bush knew abotu 9/11 ahead of time, which is unlikely given the fact that he was at a school on the day of the attack and that he dissappeared until the WH was sure that other terrorist plots weren't imminant!), and that this whole theory even made a lick of sense. Any idiot can say anything, but just because I hear someone said something, I don't rush out and make a rash opinion of "It's all very strange." Unless I'm gullible(ironic, isn't it?) or a shill trying to place a certain opinion into public discourse.

But that would just make you one of the "some" mentioned in your above quote and would not strengthen your opion at all. It's all very strange why you would go to the trouble to make an implication with no supporting facts, evidence, or logic behind it and expect people to believe you.

27 posted on 01/10/2002 10:33:26 AM PST by The Enlightener
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To: The Enlightener
I believe our new friend's name is an example of false advertising, or at least an over-inflated opinion of him/herself...
28 posted on 01/10/2002 10:47:10 AM PST by Exeter
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To: ungullible
This post needed a MEGA-BARF alert...

First, and most important, the worst terrorist attacks in our nation's history occurred during George W. Bush's occupation of the White House--after he had been in office for the better part of a year.

President Bush took office on January 20th. The attacks occurred September 11th. That is just over 8 months, if that can be considered "the better part" of a year for an administration that was reprimanded in the press for making cabinet appointment decisions before the bruhaha was over regarding the 2000 election and had to make up for lost time in other appointment decisions.

Something else to consider, these attacks had been in the planning stages for 2-3 years under an administration which had refused to enforce immigration law. The attackers had entered "legally" even if that meant that some came in on student visas even though they didn't go to school, some overstayed their travel visas, etc.. Somehow it is "most important" that it happened on President Bush's watch.

The Clinton administration's 1996 and 1998 anti-terrorism bills were gutted by congressional Republicans who were far more interested in causing distractions

Impeached president Clinton's idea of terrorists were those who were members of the VRWC. Taggents in fertilizer would not have prevented the 9/11 attacks. Stricter gun control, banned weapons, and background checks would not have prevented the 9/11 attacks.

Never mind that the film "Wag the Dog" was written about the George H.W. Bush Gulf War and the bogus PR campaign of lies that was used to sell the American public on supporting the war. Monica Lewinsky was a known subject (at least in some corridors) prior to the movie being made, it wasn't an "unlikely coincidence". Remember that Time Magazine was ready to make it a cover story when it dumped it altogether (opting for no coverage). It was after this that Matt Drudge "broke" the story. The film was thrown together slap-dash, this wasn't a long project and it shows.

The attack on the Cole occurred almost immediately after Bush started making irresponsible campaign speeches about how "decimated" our military force is.

Our intelligence knew better than to dock there. Did Billy boy reject the advice?

The Bush plan to increase military spending had not gone into effect at the time of the attacks on New York City and Washington, D.C., yet we have been able to quite effectively and successfully wage war in Afghanistan--and in a much more timely manner than when we prepared for the Gulf War.

It's been said that we cannot commit the ground troops because of the decimation. That is why we rely on Northern Alliance troops. Less of the bad guys would be able to escape if we held more of a presence there.

Unprepared? Low morale? There is no evidence of it now nor was there in 2000.

Did she talk to any members of the military or just listen to NPR?

One has to wonder how much more progress could have been made if Clinton had not had to deal with an obstructionist partisan Congress.

We have the answer to this when DemocRat Billy Jeff Fat Boy Clinton had a DemocRat majority in Congress (1993-1994).

Republicans and the consolidated corporate right-wing media were busy prying into the sordid details of Clinton's private life under the guise of a Whitewater investigation while Clinton was busy trying to find bin Laden.

Bill Clinton was never busy trying to find OBL. Even when he was "busy" on the phone deploying our service men overseas, he was still being "serviced" by his intern. In private industry this is called "sexual harassment". In the military, it is a prohibited act, even if it is consensual. At least she admits that Clinton's life is sordid.

The biggest thing that Bill Clinton and his hachet team were attempting to do was divide the people of this country along racial and economic lines. It was all about establishing a future dependent voting block for the DemocRats. Look at how many of the rats from this ship are still seeking the high ground of Washington and other power bases. Never forget who these people are.

Shame on them all. I seriously doubt that she has any grasp on what the word shame means. The people she defends in the left-wing have shown themselves to have no shame and if anyone is disgusted by their shameful behavior it is because the person who is disgusted is "intolerant".

Clinton-bashers are so consumed by their hatred that they will not acknowledge the eight years of prosperity our nation enjoyed...

Reagan-Bush-bashers are so consumed by their hatred that they will not acknowledge that this prosperity started before impeached president Clinton took office.

Assorted non-scandals omitted. President Bush's rumored drug use has no credibility in this article as the author herself must've been on drugs to write this drek. Remember that our gloriuos impeached president told kids on MTV that he wished that he had inhaled that joint, to which his young audience laughed. Additionally, his own brother stepped forward to say that Bill has a nose like a vaccuum cleaner (and these rumors of his cocaine use followed him through his life in public office). Then again, why take issue with junk that came from a book by an author of Star Trek biographies?

29 posted on 01/10/2002 1:48:42 PM PST by weegee
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To: SpeaksTruthToPower
He just hates Clinton because he's a heterosexual.

Most of the time.

30 posted on 01/10/2002 1:51:19 PM PST by dead
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To: ungullible
today's consolidated corporate right-wing media.

You’re funny.

31 posted on 01/10/2002 1:54:55 PM PST by dead
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To: Exeter
I'm willing to give the poster the benefit of the doubt this time (since the original author's email was included).

I've seen other disrupters continue to post on other threads though. Something like that article really should be its own thread though so as not to sidetrack this discussion. And an article like that (unless it comes from a "name" journalist) has no real merit on FR. We know it's BS, we know the truth. It wasn't anything more that a hit list (that really starts to wander off the 9/11 subject to cover his college years, Enron, etc.)

32 posted on 01/10/2002 1:57:06 PM PST by weegee
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To: Exeter; The Enlightener
I believe our new friend's name is an example of false advertising, or at least an over-inflated opinion of him/herself...

Well it looks like "ungullible" ran away or was banned...

No current Freeper by that name.

33 posted on 01/14/2002 3:59:17 PM PST by weegee
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