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To: Joe Hadenuf
More proof, that our immigration policies are a complete "free for all".

I guess I'm being thick. What should have happened during this stop? Should we all be required to present proof of citizenship when we are pulled over? What would be used to indicate citizenship? A Driver's License? A passport? BTW--I do agree that our immigration policies are a free for all, I'm just not sure what could be done in this particular instance.

12 posted on 01/08/2002 12:02:42 PM PST by TankerKC
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To: TankerKC
I'm just not sure what could be done in this particular instance.

Read post number 15.

How much evidence does American need before we no longer conduct our business as usual? Please know, that many in the intellegence community and law enforcement officials on the higher end of the food chain, have known for years that this WTC type attack attack has long been expected and many were not surprised when it did happen. Hell bells, they all ready tried to collapse one of the towers several years ago.

How soon many people forget. (Not you).

19 posted on 01/08/2002 12:24:19 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: TankerKC
I guess I'm being thick. What should have happened during this stop? Should we all be required to present proof of citizenship when we are pulled over? What would be used to indicate citizenship? A Driver's License? A passport? BTW--I do agree that our immigration policies are a free for all, I'm just not sure what could be done in this particular instance.

The only reason this is a big deal is because he, along with Atta, were pulled over. Atta was pulled over in Florida and cited for driving without a license. So he and all the other terrorists in Fla. went and got valid Fla. licenses. In the meantime, Atta skipped his court hearing and had a bench warrant out for him up to Sept. 11. The point is that it is too easy for any foreign national to get a U.S. ID/drivers license which is used as a primary ID document.

The trooper didn't have access to all the information necessary.

Now, you may have read the earlier thread today - 6,000 M.E. men who have final deportation orders or who skipped their deportation hearings are the first of the 300,000 going into the FBI NCIC database, which local/state police have access to.

This should probably be expanded to include all visa overstayers, except of course the INS is so incompetent they have already blown through about $40 million trying to develop a computer system that can let them know who has overstayed their visas. Several of the Sept. 11 hijackers had overstayed (including Atta). I don't know if this guy was one of them, but if he was there was no way for that trooper to know it, and there likely won't be a way for police to know for several years, at least.

28 posted on 01/08/2002 1:16:27 PM PST by testforecho
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