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Supreme Court Hears Smart Growth Suit
Environmental News Service ^ | 01/08/2001

Posted on 01/08/2002 9:59:59 AM PST by cogitator

SUPREME COURT HEARS SMART GROWTH SUIT

WASHINGTON, DC, January 7, 2002 (ENS) - The U.S. Supreme Court heard oral arguments today in the case of Tahoe Sierra Preservation Council vs. Tahoe Regional Planning Agency (TRPA).

The American Planning Association (APA) says the primary issue before the court is whether or not a temporary moratorium on land development constitutes a taking of property under the U.S. Constitution.

The Tahoe Sierra Preservation Council, a nonprofit property rights advocacy organization representing some business and development interests in the area, challenged a temporary development ban ordered by TRPA to allow time for the study and drafting of development standards to prevent the pollution of Lake Tahoe.

In June 2000, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals overturned a district court ruling that had found temporary development moratoria to be a permanent taking of property worthy of compensation under the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

In the ruling, the Court noted "temporary development moratoria prevent developers and landowners racing to carry out development that is destructive of community's interests before a new plan goes into effect. Such a race-to-development would permit property owners to evade the land use plan and undermine its goals."

The APA has filed an amicus brief in support of TRPA, a bi-state organization created in 1969 to protect Lake Tahoe and the surrounding environment in California and Nevada. The APA argues that planners need to have to ability to use interim development controls and temporary bans on development to avoid making decisions that could harm the natural environment and human communities.

"Without the use of a temporary moratorium, the public would effectively exchange the right to think about development before breaking ground for impatience," said Jeff Soule, policy director for APA. "The property rights of Lake Tahoe include the right to remain unpolluted, scenic and reasonably planned."

The United States has filed its own amicus brief in support of TRPA, and U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson will deliver oral arguments before the Supreme Court. This will mark the first time that a U.S. Solicitor General has argued a takings case before the Supreme Court.


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Definitely a case to watch. Do some property owners have rights to a relatively scenic and unspoiled "view", rights which restrict the rights of others to develop land and potentially disturb that "view"?
1 posted on 01/08/2002 9:59:59 AM PST by cogitator
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To: cogitator;*landgrab
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2 posted on 01/08/2002 10:04:00 AM PST by Libertarianize the GOP
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To: cogitator
The United States has filed its own amicus brief in support of TRPA, and U.S. Solicitor General Theodore Olson will deliver oral arguments before the Supreme Court.

Do I understand this correctly? Bush/Olson et al are supporting the taking of property rights?

3 posted on 01/08/2002 10:07:29 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: cogitator
Do they have a right to the view?

Absolutely, if they have purchased the land the view consists of, or have arranged an easement or other development restriction with the land's owners.

But in the absences of any claim to the property?

Absolutely not.

4 posted on 01/08/2002 10:10:54 AM PST by jdege
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Do I understand this correctly? Bush/Olson et al are supporting the taking of property rights?

They support the TRPA position, apparently. But this is not as clear as a ban on development, because it is a "temporary" development plan. So it would appear that the Administration is supporting the rights of communities or regions to have a development plan that cannot be over-ridden by developers in a hurry.

5 posted on 01/08/2002 10:11:59 AM PST by cogitator
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If I remember correctly, the TRPA is a federal creature, created by Congress. The Solicitor General is defending what is in essence a federal agency.

One has to wonder, how long is temporary?

6 posted on 01/08/2002 10:38:22 AM PST by cowpoke
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To: cogitator
If someone (enviro-whacko) wants a "view" in, about, through, within or near my property and restrict my reasonable use of it, shouldn't they pay for it? CARA money, our taxes, MY taxes, will allow government agencies to "purchase" my property when I become a "willing seller" - unable to use my property and relieved to get some financial return for my now "worthless" property. What a deal, what a country!!
7 posted on 01/08/2002 10:56:31 AM PST by caisson71
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"The property rights of Lake Tahoe include the right to remain unpolluted, scenic and reasonably planned."

I didn't know that lakes had property rights. When did that happen?

Depending on the length of the temporary ban, it seems reasonable to me. That the case is still being tried would seem to indicate that the ban is far too long.

8 posted on 01/08/2002 12:36:30 PM PST by Andrew Wiggin
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To: cogitator
The land owners and developers will win this case 5-4 or 6-3. The USSC would not have taken a case like this unless there were at least four Justices who what to reverse the 9th Circuit.
9 posted on 01/08/2002 1:23:56 PM PST by connectthedots
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This could put the Columbia River Gorge Commission out of business if the land owners win this case.
10 posted on 01/08/2002 1:25:32 PM PST by connectthedots
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To: connectthedots
Hhhmmm, I hadn't thought of that. Whatever happened to that case of the homeowner down there? Are the people who are enjoined from improving their property? Maybe I'm thinking of the wrong case.
11 posted on 01/08/2002 1:32:16 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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The Bea family won 8-0 in the Washington Supreme Court. Talmadge wimped out and didn't participate in the ruling, mostly because he would have wanted to vote against the Beas but didn't want to risk the wrath of the property rights groups when he eventually runs for governor.
12 posted on 01/08/2002 1:51:03 PM PST by connectthedots
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For me a lot would depend on the definition of temporary. If a developer purchased some land with expectations of developing it and to find the next day a temporary injunction that could last years, that would certainly be a taking. If its a few months then I wouldn't think that material.
13 posted on 01/08/2002 2:02:18 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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Do some property owners have rights to a relatively scenic and unspoiled "view", rights which restrict the rights of others to develop land and potentially disturb that "view"?

Your question indicates you don't understand the concept of "taking".

As a land owner, I have certain rights to use my land. The consideration I paid for the land was made expecting to have those rights available to me. When those rights are taken from me then I have the right to be compensated by those who took them from me.

In applying that to yoru hypothetical, I purchase some unrestricted land with the intent to develop it. You and others use your rights to stop my developing which is ok with me but the taking of the rights to develop the land should be compensated for by the majority who took it.

14 posted on 01/08/2002 2:18:59 PM PST by VRWC_minion
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it is a "temporary" development plan.

"Temporary" being 21+ years. The landowners have been denied permission to build on the land since 1980.

15 posted on 01/08/2002 3:24:25 PM PST by Sandy
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To: connectthedots
Thanks for the update on that case. You're right, BTW - Talmadge is planning on the gov's mansion....
16 posted on 01/08/2002 3:31:14 PM PST by anniegetyourgun
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I will certainly have my judgment by the time Talmadge runs for governor. I can assure yu that I will spare no effort to let the citizens of Washington know just how big a socialist he is and how big a threat he would be to the constitutional rights of the citizens of the State of Washington. If I will have to follow him on his campaign trail to do so, I will. Thare are many WA SC decisions which will not sit well with both property rights types nor with the ACLU types. A big problem with socialists is that once they are exposed, neither conservatives nor 'liberals' want them to be in charge of anything.
17 posted on 01/08/2002 4:09:20 PM PST by connectthedots
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As a land owner, I have certain rights to use my land. The consideration I paid for the land was made expecting to have those rights available to me. When those rights are taken from me then I have the right to be compensated by those who took them from me.

Yes, I understand that. The issue is whether a supposedly temporary moratorium on development (to allow environmental issues to be addressed) constitutes a taking.

In applying that to yoru hypothetical, I purchase some unrestricted land with the intent to develop it. You and others use your rights to stop my developing which is ok with me but the taking of the rights to develop the land should be compensated for by the majority who took it.

Correct. I think that the issue is going to be the meaning of "temporary". Another poster here said that the moratorium has been in place for about 20 years. I'd expect that to be a strong point in favor of the plaintiff.

18 posted on 01/09/2002 7:09:10 AM PST by cogitator
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To: cogitator
Another poster here said that the moratorium has been in place for about 20 years. I'd expect that to be a strong point in favor of the plaintiff,

Your British right ?

19 posted on 01/09/2002 7:48:15 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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Your British right ?

I've never been accused of being British before. Why do you ask?

20 posted on 01/09/2002 8:29:31 AM PST by cogitator
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