[Arator]

Go to Hong Kong. Then see how free trade works for them.

If I go, I will see, hear, and read exactly what the ChiComs want me to see, hear, and read.

Material wealth is meaningless when the soul is caged.

That you regard ChiCom ruled Hong Kong as some sort of social ideal tells me all I need to know about you. You are, aparently, a materialist to the core. You measure everything by the less than mightly Eurodollar. The false god GDP is the only god you care to "worship", to the extent you worship anything. Your politics teeters precariously on this foundational error. As such, it takes little force to knock the entire creaking edifice down.

[MadIvan]

If I go, I will see, hear, and read exactly what the ChiComs want me to see, hear, and read.

You have no idea how utterly idiotic you are being. I just told you that Falun Gong, which is banned everywhere else, is active and raising money in Hong Kong. Hell, they were asking money from me on street corners.

In terms of people complaining, again, you prove you know absolutely nothing about Hong Kong, its people or what it is like to be there. Of course if you did, you'd have to give up your most cherished beliefs and even question Comrade Pat. And we can't have that amount of freedom of thought entering your head, now can we?

Ivan