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For the record: I don't see a thread on Alan Keyes, twist my fake mustache and think, "Now's my chance to disrupt those Keyesters!" I just find it an interesting topic, so here I am.

That's a great line! :-)

Of course, you need to realize there are some here who do...(minus the fake mustache thingy, of course...;-)

Since you find this so interesting, you might want to hit the archives, and read some of the speeches and writings of Dr. Keyes...most are far more edifying than these threads, and you might find that his consistency in defense of conservative ideals is refreshing.

I have known him since 1995, and he hasn't wavered in all that time in his articulate championing of those principles.

I would also ask you to think very carefully about the fairness of certain posts, and possibly ask yourself about the motivations of those who simply trash Keyes based on their perception of his personality.

If we wanted to be part of the politics of personality, we could just all be Democrats, right?

Most of the divisions I have seen in the GOP over the last generation have been caused by people focusing on that instead of keeping their eyes on the ball...keeping focused on the great principles of self-government that caused this free republic to arise and prosper.

Regards...EV

This is a fair question and not meant to spark a fight in either direction. Can you understand or have you personally experienced being very displeased with the way someone has spoken to you or to others? Have you ever met a person that is overbearing or appears to speak condescendingly to or about others; perhaps been unkind about someone you care for? If the answer is yes, do you simultaneously put all feeling aside and search for a quality to praise? I think the honest answer is "no".

It is easy to overlook the unpleasant qualities if you are close allies. But blinders hinder all of us at one time or another. We don't want to believe that the person we admire is not seen that way by everyone. We try hard to emphasize the good we see and downplay or deny the faults. By the same token, another may see only that which bothers him or her.

Personalities, manners and the way we are treated causes each of us to make a judgment. It's really that simple.

The fact that one man's pleasure is another's pain is not so remarkable. Bushies can't understand why Keyesters are not bothered by arrogance and ego and Keyesters can't understand why Bushies won't overlook the personality. Interesting that such a common situation causes such furor.

Have you noticed through all of this the lack of attack on his positions on anything? Here we are at over 700 posts and it is the same old, same old......the I don't like his smile, I don't like his wink, I don't like the tonal qualities of his voice, I don't like how he looks in jeans, I don't think he should be intelligent, I don't think he should speak, I don't think it's fair, I don't think you should.....

Reminds me of Christian who set themselves up as God...telling the convert, do do this, don't do that, do do this, do do that, don't do this, don't do that. They feel this urgent desire to establish what Christianity is or isn't. In other words, the Sister Sales try to place themselves above God because they are doing the defining of Christians and have decided they know what God wants from each and every one of us.

I lived thru that nightmare once, losing God, and having regained him, all I can say is they can go to hell if they want to.

I'm going to keep walking my faith walk with God, letting him work what changes he wants in me, and let him do the judging at the end of time.

I'm not going to look down my nose because someone jumps in a mosh pit, or does a stint on SNL because it doesn't seem Christianly. They exclaim that Christ would NEVER go in a bar and yet we read God is everywhere...who do ya believe, Sister Sal or the Word of God? Seems like Adam and Eve took a fall for listening to the sweet deceitful words of Satan while ignoring God's word.