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Owner of A/C That Crashed Into Tampa Building Was Publically Pro-Arab!!!.
St. Pete Times ^
Posted on 01/05/2002 2:13:06 PM PST by MindBender26
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To: cinciphil
And I guess since you know what the Koran says, that means you have read it? Why don't you educate all of us 'simpletons' about what else you read in the Koran.
To: cinciphil
my bad in the grammar, but how can you believe muslims (by their beliefs) aren't terrorists ? instead of calling me names, enlighten me if your point is valid
To: VA Advogado
I've piloted Cessnas 152 and 172. They don't have retractable gears. The 172 is flown by IFR and can seat up to 4 people.
To: Trust but Verify
Read but don't understand much of it.......neither do the believers.....but it is very very hard to understandd
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To: OWK
Remind me to never p*ss you off ......... m/00\m
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posted on
01/05/2002 3:35:53 PM PST
by
kanawa
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To: Agape
"MSNBC says it was a 15 year old named CHarles Bishop who flew the plane."
Well they at first called the shoe bomber "Richard Reid" too. My hunch is that this kid is neither Arab nor Muslim. But for the time being, his name is not much of an indication either way
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To: cinciphil
Just curious....do you consider yourself a Christian? If not, what religion (if any) do you follow?
To: cinciphil
But you KNOW it teaches muslims to KILL ALL NONBELIVERS! Isn't that what you posted?
To: Roebucks
Nope, none I went to Catholic schools and never fell under their spell.........
To: Agape
"Or do you think Bush, one of the first to publically speak out against attacking Islam, is an idiot?"
I don't think that Bush is an authority on Islam. I also don't think that Bush has read the Koran. Judging from what I know of the Koran and people I know who are familiar with Islam, Islam is not in fact a religion of peace.
To: Trust but Verify
sure did .......I'll send you some links to read for yourself.......it( koran) are the ravings of a lunatic and a pedophile, unless marrying a 6 yr old is ok... NOT
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To: cinciphil
Read but don't understand much of it....... There's a huge surprise.
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posted on
01/05/2002 3:41:59 PM PST
by
OWK
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To: dep;OWK;Liberty Belle;I am still Casey
nothing there that i could not teach you or anyone else how to do in under an hour. rotate at V2, apply enough rudder to counter adverse yaw, and don't do anything really sudden. it involves skill, but less skill than, say, lacing and tying shoes. No--adverse yaw is what you get when you roll into or out of a turn, from the difference in induced drag caused by the displaced ailerons. As far as I know, the left-turning tendency you encounter when you're at low airspeed, high AOA, and high power is called simply that: the "left-turning tendency." It's made up of a whole bunch of contributing factors, but basically you ignore them and shove the right rudder in until the ball centers.
I don't think the crash was purposeful at all. The witness I saw said the plane was porpoising significantly before it crashed. It looks to me like a stupid 15-year-old flight student had preflighted his airplane, as instructed, and was waiting for his instructor to come out and check up on him, when he got bored and decided to take the plane up himself.
Perhaps he thought he was ready for his first solo and his instructor had been stubbornly refusing to endorse him for it, so he figured he'd show him a thing or two.
Why did he fly toward the city? Two reasons: first, he probably knew the area and could follow familiar roads on the ground; second, it was nice and big and he could see it. Why did he crash? Because suddenly he noticed the Coast Guard helicopter behind him and tried to keep an eye on it. He ended up trying to do too many things at once, got behind the airplane, and wound up caught in a series of phugoid oscillations (the same thing that happens to a paper airplane with too much nose-up trim when you let it go from a large height).
Phugoid oscillations are not difficult to recover from when you've got your wits about you, but he didn't (he'd probably never experienced them before, because his instructor had made sure he had never before put in a control displacement large and sudden enough to get them started), and before he could get the plane under control a building got in his way. If he was trying to climb over the building without enough engine power, the phugoids would just have gotten bigger and more uncontrollable.
I don't think there's anything international or religious here: just another idiot teenager who thinks he's invincible and omniscient finding out (briefly) that he's not.
Wouldn't be surprised that he's a spoiled little rich kid whose parents paid for his flying lessons to get him off their backs.
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posted on
01/05/2002 3:42:53 PM PST
by
Barak
To: Central Scrutiniser
"Or, it could be a 15 year old kid who stole the plane and didn't know what the hell he was doing."
. . .could be, but if he did not know what he was doing, why would he steal a plane; if he did not know how to land, why did he go up?
Actually, I heard a student pilot was on board; have they confirmed he was alone?
Inclined to think no news about name released yet of 'involved' could well indicate ME influence somewhere on board. . .
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posted on
01/05/2002 3:44:40 PM PST
by
cricket
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