I can not believe you still believe the Media Lies told yesterday. Seems the President should outrank any captain. The president ordered this man on to this flight to protect the President. This Captain had no right to refuse passage without even bothering to call a local number. In fact this Captain wouldn't even allow his suypervison to call and verify this agents identity.
None of the terroist managed to get a gun through security. This agent did so three times. Did this Captain check with the Agents supervisor. No. Did he make any attempt to verify the agents identy. No. Did he have this agent fill out an A. A. form three times because another AA employee crossed out the canceled filght number and put on the new flight number. This was verifiable but this captain nover bothered.
Worse of ass as Bill said he never reported the incident to authorities until he was called on the carpte. Furthermore this sam,e captain kept another legitimate officer off a flight.
Had this flight been hijacked. The agent would not have been able to prevent it. What good are Air Marshals if stupid Pilots will not even allow SS Agents on planes.
Well he would have been able to be on the flight, with his gun, had he bothered to SIGN a form that requires a signature. Small detail, one that you would certainly think a USSS agent would notice. The fact that he didn't notice would certainly bring his "stated profession" into question.
"Ummmm...Yeah...call this number there is a guy there named Habib...Harry....yes Harry. He'll confirm that I am a Secret Agent."
He also relayed it to AA security and the AA security recommended he deny boarding to the agent.
They may be worse than useless. Is that guy with a gun really a sky marshal? Or is he in cahoots with the hijackers?
Will the resulting confusion help or hinder the bad guys...
You make a good point. IMO from what I've read, the pilot knew he was SS. After denying boarding, he let the agent, an Arab, deplane, with a gun? If the pilot had a real doubt, we'd be reading about the agent's arguement with the National Guard & Dallas police, not the pilot.
This Captain had no right to refuse passage without even bothering to call a local number.
Yes, he did!!
None of the terroist managed to get a gun through security.
But one asshole got a pair of plastic-explosive shoes through!
Did this Captain check with the Agents supervisor.
No, he didn't have to!.
Did he make any attempt to verify the agents identy.
No, he didn't have to!.
Worse of ass as Bill said he never reported the incident to authorities until he was called on the carpte.
This one I don't know what you mean!
Your attitude is best displayed by your own quote,"What good are Air Marshals if stupid Pilots will not even allow SS Agents on planes."
Do you realize how many LEGITIMATE pilots' licenses, security keys, uniforms, and drivers' licenses have been stolen and never recovered? Do you realize that Mohammad Atta's parents still insist that someone faked his identity to receive a passport and visa? Do you realize how many illegals can go to almost any city in the US and get identification papers that it would take G-d to recognize as forgeries? Not to mention the forged documents that can be had for free if you are a terrorist with an organization behind you? Can you understand the seeds of panic this *agent* planted by his attitude, the unusual reading material in his carryon luggage, his arrogance and temper?
If he said the President ordered him to be somewhere, who gave Mohammed Atta permission to sit in the jumpseat in the cockpit of the plane he then hijacked? Why, none other than American Airlines...as a courtesy to off duty pilots. No one questioned HIS right to be there and thousands of people are dead because of it.
ONE Secret Service agent is no more special than Mohammad Atta. The agent is alive. The passengers are alive. And the PILOT is a hero.