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To: EdZep
But, it doesn't take profiling to recognize an uncooperative person with a weapon, who doesn't want to follow procedure.

Lets see the Agent was uncooperative? He didnt present himself and his credentials to the pilot upon boarding? He didnt leave the plane when asked to do so while they checked his ID? He didnt present his badge and photo ID to the Captain each of the five times the pilot requested them, even though the pilot admitted to the SOC that he had no clue what Secret Service Photo ID should look like. He didnt fill out the same American Airlines form three times when requested to do so by the Pilot. He objected when AA flight attendent rummaged through his personal belongings while he was not on board. He didnt offer any suggestions to the pilot on how his identity could be established, no telephone number at the White House to call or name of his boss. WRONG. EACH OF THESE STATEMENTS IS WRONG. The pilots own statement indicates that he cooperated in each of these ways.

The Pilot on the other hand was the picture perfect representative of cooperation. He refused to call or have the police call the White House to speak to the agents boss to confirm his idenitity. Why? Because then he wouldnt have an excuse not to fly him to Texas. He kept inspecting the agents badge and ID when he admitted to the SOC at American that he had no clue what they were supposed to look like. He accepts his flight attendants word that the agent is acting suspicous by deplaning when he knew he had orderd the Agent to deplane. Also he says he became suspicious when the flight attendant informed him that the agent had an Arabic language book in his possession. Unfortunately the book was written in English and was found long after he had been ordered to deplane for his suspicious behavior.

The only point at which the agent became uncooperative was when after more than an hour of delay, the Pilot refused to check his identity, refused to allow him to board and wouldnt return his coat and other posssessions on board to him. In fact the Captain while standing directly in front of the agent would only address him through a third person. Yes the Pilot was a model of cooperation and the Agent was not. If you believe that I got some John Birch/Michael Rivero conspiracies to sell you.

Nor does it take much good sense to see what a crybaby the guy has become, and to recognize the possibility that the entire incident was contrived for a lawsuit and 15 minutes of fame. The agent should lose his job for unprofessional conduct

The "crybaby" accepted legal representation from CAIR because he wanted an apology and reinstatement of his right to fly on American Airlines. In fact the agent is fighting for his job. Without being able to fly American, he will have a difficult time doing his job.

210 posted on 01/05/2002 6:07:04 AM PST by Dave S
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To: Dave S
The "crybaby" accepted legal representation from CAIR because he wanted an apology and reinstatement of his right to fly on American Airlines.

Normally when you have a problem with a company you wish to continue using, you complain to upper management. When you improperly fill out forms three times you supposedly should know how to fill out, and then run to an organization like CAIR, you are looking for publicity and probably lawsuit money. This agent is a fraud ---he knew how to fill out those forms all along.

236 posted on 01/05/2002 7:11:57 AM PST by FITZ
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To: Dave S
He didnt leave the plane when asked to do so while they checked his ID?

This, and your other arguments all seem to be based on the agent's attorney's statement. Please read the Pilot's original report of the incident:

Secret Service Agent Kicked off Flight – Pilot’s Version

Note that the pilot says the agent left the plane BEFORE the incident began; in fact, it was his absence that triggered suspicion. Who among us has been allowed to leave a plane after boarding? If he did leave the plane, why? Was it to call CAIR (out of earshot of witnesses) to tell them that "Operation Discrimination" was about to begin?

You can believe who you want to believe, but at least consider both sides of the story.

267 posted on 01/05/2002 8:21:29 AM PST by browardchad
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