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We're not talking about gov't waste, fraud, etc. On that I would agree with you to a certain extent. Not all Feds are slackards; I'd have to say that the silent majority are decent hard-working people who are much maligned. What we're discussing is taking away the right to vote, possibly the most precious right in a democratic society. You'll get some Freepers to agree with you on that issue, but I think you'll lose them when you start to say that military officers and others shouldn't be allowed to vote as well.