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To: tberry
I recognize the argument that only property owners should have the franchise to vote, and I disagree. For a start, it's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist. The "dependant" class, I hate to tell you, don't run this country nor do they vote in the government (what percentage of voters are on welfare?). Go back to the tax chart above. That 1% must be getting something for their money or they wouldn't bother. Here's a clue: during the 1950s -- when the income tax was sky high -- one of the single highest taxpayers on earned income was none other than Elvis Presley. Do you think he made the most money of anyone in the country? Of course not.

Ted Kennedy not only wins elections and feels good about himself over the progressive income tax but he is hardly affected by it. Why do you think the Cap. Gains tax went through so easily and you don't hear Rats bitching about it?

The progressive income tax is a barrier only to those moving up the class scale, not to those already there (a guess would be that it affects most those in the $80 to $250K income range on salary). I would also argue that the progressive income tax is a burden upon the lower classes because the higher tax payers naturally shift their burden upon lower income consumers. My solution would be to be rid of salary taxes (gone medicaid, s.s., etc.) and have all pay a flat rate on income earned however. Won't happen, but that's my pet solution.

Alright: property rights. One of the great questions in American history is the nature of this right. Ask ten people and I'd bet not two could tell you the basis of their property rights. The nine others would give you eighteen different definitions.

I'd love to hear your definition and identification of its source and protection.

169 posted on 01/07/2002 9:27:40 AM PST by nicollo
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To: nicollo
"The "dependant" class, I hate to tell you, don't run this country nor do they vote in the government "

Where are you from? Must not be the US. They certainly do vote and certainly do run the government in collaboration with the liberals.

"democracy is positively "immoral," because "it allows for A and B to band together to rip off C"

A are the liberals and with the collaboration of B who are the "dependent" class, they agree that they will stick together and pass liberal and "entitlement" legislation, thereby ripping off C which are the top tax payers who are traditionally conservatives. The liberals get their socialist legislation and the "dependent" class get free support through entitlements and all the Conservatives get is the bill through taxes.

172 posted on 01/07/2002 10:00:16 AM PST by tberry
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