Benny Hinn: Iran's Government soon to fall

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[SerpentDove]

>> Benny Hinn: Iran's Government soon to fall<<

What's he gonna do, blow it over, like he does to people on TV?

[agenda_express]

AMEN

[mag]

I will relate to you all a true story about Kenneth Copeland and his ministry....I am not putting him down or mocking him...just trying to show how the Lord saved me and mine from a life time of deceit in this area.....

I had been listening to Kenneth and Gloria alot in my younger days and was very much interested...I forget now when it was exactly...(date,year)..but they were coming to our city and I was all agloe to go hear them. We went to the arena where they were to be speaking and all of a sudden I could NOT get out of the truck...I could NOT even open the door...there was a restraining power I could NOT see but I knew it was the Lord...My husband went inside to look around and find the room they were suppose to be in, but,lo and behold, he found nothing to advertise them.

What he did see though shocked him to his shoes.... He saw a marquee sign that said "Best Little Whorehouse in Texas"....the Copelands are from Fort Worth,Tx. When he came back to the truck and relayed this to me, I knew instantly why I could NOT open the truck door. My Beloved Lord did NOT want us to get all wrapped up in some man's beggarly ministry....He wanted us to trust Him for EVERYTHING... and I mean EVERYTHING!!!! Our family has been through the wringer...many, many, many times...but Jesus the Christ has been faithful and brought us through each and everytime..GLORY TO GOD IN THE HIGHEST!!! In His Name, mag

[nopardons]

I could , perhaps, understand people ONCE being this gullible ... just not in this day and age. Tollerance has little to do with finding gullible people this " blind " to such amazing naivete. One can't be " tollerant " with this much naifness. : - )

After centuries of exposed religious charlatans, it should stand to reason, that people would be able to see right through them now. In times past, there were no radio, T.V., or internet, and newspapers were filled with only local news. Being BLIND to truth, and then blaming it on one's religious beliefs, is akin to claiming " innoscence ", due to not knowing that XYZ is against the law . That doesn't make it, in a court of law, and neither will claiming that because one was raised to believe in GOD, Jesus, what's in the Bible, any excuse to being rabidlly pro any charlatan, because he / she spouts Scripture. The Bible DOES say, that the Devil can repeat Scripture, far better than anyone else! It also warns against FALSE PROPHETS ! Two millenia ago, the faithful WERE warned against the likes of Hinn. : - )

[MarthaNOStewart]

Maybe you are just ignorant of the scriptures, IMHO. I don't always agree with Benny Hinn, however you need to Read Mathew Chapter 12: Verses: 30-36. God help your soul.

[aruanan]

Benny Hinn: Iran's Government soon to fall

Does Benny work for DEBKA?

[2sheep]

Excellent testimony!  Your post is exactly one of the ways the Lord works to protect his own. 

Here is a link to Stanley Frodsham's which explained in advance of the deception that was to come.  The first link has been posted on the net many times but is an excerpt of the full version below.  

Stanley Frodsham (1965) The Coming Deception - short form

Stanley Frodsham (1965) at Elim conference - long form (best one)

Mt 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

Lots of people who say they are "believers" didn't believe Jesus in this verse and have been deceived.  There are many who are false prophets/teachers who are preaching gospels that have a lot of truth and then they introduce a lie which is to deceive people.  If there was no penalty for being deceived, Jesus would not have warned of it.  There is still a broad way to destruction and a narrow way to eternal life and the Lord said of the latter.......and few there be that find it.  Diversity, pluralism, tolerance and ecumenicalism are preached inside and outside the church.  We cannot absorb (receive) every wind of doctrine and remain His.

[aruanan]

After centuries of exposed religious charlatans, it should stand to reason, that people would be able to see right through them now.

But individuals don't live for centuries.

[El Cid]

Hi Sabertooth,

With respect to post #179:

The Book of Revelations was written by the last living Apostle, John, on the island of Patmos around 95 AD.

Correct on Patmos, perhaps a little earlier. However, after his release, John lived out his days at Ephesus, where he wrote his Gospel.

Although I don't have the copyright records, the passage in Revelations 1:2 where John speaks of himself as previously having bore record of the word of God, and testimony of Jesus Christ is strong evidence that the Gospel of John was written prior to the Book of Revelations (the last Book of the Bible). I agree that most traditions have John writing this Gospel in Ephesus, but tradition also holds that he was there both prior and after his field trip to Patmos.

Rev 1

1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:
2 Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

[Sabertooth]

Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw.

That could easily refer to John's ministry.

My point is, even if I'm wrong, there's plenty of evidence and room fro reasonable scriptural interpretation to at least call into doubt the assertion that Revelation was the last book of the Bible to be written.

Further, there are references in Chrinicles and Kings of Scriptures which are now lost to us. Suppose they were rediscovered in Jerusalem somewhere?

How would the Canon then play out in regard to Revelation 22:18,19? I think that this could easily be referring to the Book of Revelation itself (far more reasonable and apt, IMO), rather than to the whole Bible.

[El Cid]

With respect to post #154:

There is no doubt that God certified His message through signs and wonders. This was shown through Moses, through Elijah and Elisha, through Christ, through the Apostles. But that is over. God has provided us His Word - and the next sign and wonder we will see from God will be when Christ returns on a cloud. Read Matthew 24. I'll repeat the same passage I quoted earlier:

Matt 24:24
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

If you want to deny this claim, and deny the commands in Revelation 22 - that's your prerogative:

Rev 22:18-19
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

[El Cid]

Hi Robert, With respect to Post #159.

I understand that there are a lot of writings about when the different gospels, epistles, etcetera were written. Fundamentally I presume God to be the author of all of these different writings, and that He somehow guided people's hands in assembling these books together into the Bible - so I'm not too hung up as to what got written when ... except I'm right.
OK, I wasn't there - but most people take the Letter to the Hebrews as having been written by Paul, and he was martyred in the 60ish AD timeframe. The epistles of John? No, I can't prove they were written prior to the Book of Revelations - but I presume they were.
Anyways, I agree with you on your points - there are references that dispute when the different epistles/books were written - but I believe the strongest evidence points at Revelations being the last book written.
Be well.

[Robert_Paulson2]

fair enough. and fare well. adding to scripture is not a good idea in either case, we got enough doctrines to fight about without adding any more as it is...

Regarding hebrews... I support the barnabas authorship... not for sure... Hebrews has always been my favorite book... the temple WAS still standing. Whethe rev has the earlier date or the later one, benny hinn was not authorized to add to it... I don't think BH is an apostle... but we do have a lot of apostates running around... with offering plates these days.

I would rather send you my money than them.

YOU BE WELL.

[El Cid]

Hello Sabertooth,

With respect to posting #210:

Sounds like this is a controversial point with many. I concede that the dates of the various books/letters can be disputed - but I obviously fall into the camp that interpret it the way I do (that the Book of Revelations was written last). With respect to the other books you make reference (the Books of the Nathan, Wars, Jumbyliah, etc ...), since these were never included in the 'Jewish Bible' (the Tenach) that was around at the time of Christ I don't believe they were devinely inspired. They are probably interesting historical books (like Macabees, etc), but not the Word of God.

Although I understand that God's ways are not man's ways, nor are His thoughts man's thoughts -- And I see things through sinful eyes and am obviously subject to error, I believe the Book of Revelations does make reference to the entire Bible in its closing verses in Chapter 22. My take on this is:

#1: The Bible is one, seamless, Book. Anything taken or added to Revelations changes the entire Bible. I believe its fitting that Chapter 22 of Revelations closes the Bible.

#2: What if God had not provided this close to the Bible? If He hadn't, it would open the way for every Joseph Smith, David Koresh, Mohammed, Mary White, Claire Prophet, Benny Hinn, etcetera, etcetera to add their 'inspired' word into God's statement. Again, God makes these calls, and not I -- but to me it makes sense that God sealed His Word with the closing book from the last living Apostle.

That's the extent of my two cents - and may God Bless you.

[El Cid]

Thanks Robert. You made some very good points, and I think we've beaten this one into the ground.
May God Bless you also.

[blackbart1]

I agree with you my FReeperFRiend but having very close friends who are caught up in this but absolutely refuse to hear anything I would have to say on the matter I will be "tolerant" and prayerful and hope they will see the truth.

Like you it seems really stupid when one thinks logically about it and perhaps that is what they can't or don't want to do.

[nopardons]

No, people do not live for centuries; however, they CAN read , and ALL of this HAS been written down.

Exposing religious frauds, has been on radio, T.V., in newspapers, in books, and yes, on the net . Do a Google search, on Father Divine, Amy Semple McPherson, and anyone else you care to. It's all there. " ELMER GANTRY " was written, before any FREEPER was born. Yes, it is a work of fiction, but was based on REALITY . There have AWAYS been religious con-artists. The Bible warns against believing them. If one believes that the Bible IS indeed GOD's word, then that ALONE should suffice. : - )

[nopardons]

Faith is not logical ; which is WHY GOD repeatedly warned HIS flock.

Tolerance can be a good thing . IN this case, it allows those we know and hold dear, to go down the wrong path. Better to pray AND try to enlighten, than to permit friends to go to the " evil " side.

I'll happily jin your prayers, for your friends. May GOD open their eyes ot the truth .

May HE always walk with you, FREEPER FRiend.

[aruanan]

Exposing religious frauds, has been on radio, T.V., in newspapers, in books, and yes, on the net . Do a Google search, on Father Divine, Amy Semple McPherson, and anyone else you care to. It's all there. " ELMER GANTRY " was written, before any FREEPER was born. Yes, it is a work of fiction, but was based on REALITY . There have AWAYS been religious con-artists. The Bible warns against believing them. If one believes that the Bible IS indeed GOD's word, then that ALONE should suffice.

I know that, but not everyone has accessed all the radio, T.V., etc., articles about such hucksterism. And even if they had, people are more willing to believe someone that promises them something wonderful that will gratify their desire for a short cut to wealth (look at all the non-religious financial gurus) and health (look at all the non-religious Suzanne Somers-types of diet books and nostrums) than someone who tells them hard, unpleasant truths.

[nopardons]

True, up to a point. Today, there are so very many more areas of information, that one would have to be almost living in a cave, to NOT know. Unfortunately, somehow TRUTH still has a difficut time in getting out there.

The really scarey part of this, is that some FREEPERS are part of the gullible mass. : - (