Now that you got me involved in this one, I got to say that ther is nothing nonsensical about the "Mason/CFR/Bilderburger/whatever Conspiracy Theory" as you call it. It no longer is a conspiracy but a fact. I have just re-read the book Proofs of a Conspiracy by John Robison written in 1789 which was a written account of secret meetings formed by Adam Weishapt who formed the Illuminati taking ideas from England secret societies by using the Masons as Reading Literati's to overthrow civil government and rid of Christianity. The secret of Weishapt's Illuminati was "Reason" and "Morality" as accepted on his terms to which his secret High Society dispelled this thinking on all of society outside. This is a fact! Not something I made up. The Society still exist today but under a new name that no one knows. Actually this Society follows the dictates of a Prince whose purpose is to make everybody happy whether they like it or not. The so-called Prince is none other than Lucifer i.e. Satan i.e. "Prince of this World", Prince of Peace and Legion. God's enemy works on Earth to deceive God's people. And as this enemy has a short time on this Earth, it wants to mislead and deceive as many sheeple as possible. Therefore, it is up to the discerning individual to see through the lies that the Enemy dispells.
Ratcat and I both are lifelong Conservative Republicans and I am very confident I am as old or older than MUD.
As far as spin, I read more substance and information in what Black Jade posts than what MUD posts. Most of what I read in MUD posts is bluster, spin and fewer facts and less documentation.
I am interested when people provide facts, articles , important quotes from good sources in discussions even if I do not agree with their conclusions. I still can learn more from Black Jade's info than from MUD's spins and blowing smoke and bluster even when I do not agree with Black Jade's conclusions.
There are two good reasons for not agreeing with a conclusion even when good info and documentation is provided. First, there is always a matter of interpretation of what the info means. Second, even though info provided is useful it may not always be complete because more may be known than what the replier may be aware of. The additional info can change one's overall view of the an issue.
In the case of Black Jade, I want to encourage her to keep posting ("hang tough") her info and conclusions in spite of MUD's personal assertions and blusterous put downs. I want to see Black Jade's info and conclusions even when I do not agree with all her conclusions because I learn more in the discussion. I do not learn as much useful from MUD's bluster, spin and shortage of information in comparison to Back Jade.
On many issues, I have not made up my mind or can have my opinion changed, but I am more likely to be persuaded by someone like Black Jade who is making an honest attempt to support their conclusions with information than by someone like MUD who is making allegations of spin and making wild assertions (like calling me a young liberal, or his incorrect claims of relying on conspiracy theories, etc) and uses less substance or information.
Maybe MUD could learn to change his approach if he wants to be taken more seriously and be more persuasive. His personal assertions get in the way of learning more about the issues.
I'm not surprised that there wouyld be folks who get together on a regular basis and try to enact legislation that counteracts that which I would propose, but..."So What?!" Right now, we are meeting to discuss the enactment of things the "Mason/CFR/Bilderburger/whatever Conspiracy" is trying to enact...do you think THEY are losing any sleep over it?!
"I have just re-read the book Proofs of a Conspiracy by John Robison written in 1789 which was a written account of secret meetings formed by Adam Weishapt who formed the Illuminati taking ideas from England secret societies by using the Masons as Reading Literati's to overthrow civil government and rid of Christianity. The secret of Weishapt's Illuminati was "Reason" and "Morality" as accepted on his terms to which his secret High Society dispelled this thinking on all of society outside. This is a fact! Not something I made up. The Society still exist today but under a new name that no one knows. Actually this Society follows the dictates of a Prince whose purpose is to make everybody happy whether they like it or not. The so-called Prince is none other than Lucifer i.e. Satan i.e. "Prince of this World", Prince of Peace and Legion. God's enemy works on Earth to deceive God's people. And as this enemy has a short time on this Earth, it wants to mislead and deceive as many sheeple as possible. Therefore, it is up to the discerning individual to see through the lies that the Enemy dispells."
Maybe you are Right, goldilucky...but I watched "Omen III" last night and The Good Guys Won...so there!!
FReegards...MUD