[Notwithstanding]

You misunderstand. My post was a declaration about me and my bustling, crowded, large-family, high-vocation novus ordo parish.

Novus ordo folks do many of the same traditional things (in fact all you listed in the post I was responding to) schismatic Lefebrites do, and all the things the indult Latin Mass Catholics-in-good-standing do.

[Orual]

Your confused and confusing first post to me, and your equally indecipherable second post make no sense. I still have absolutely no idea of the point you're trying to make, unless it was to make sure you include something about the "schismatic Lefebrites" - your misspelling of the Bishop's name is kept as quoted. You may pray some of the same prayers as traditional Catholics, although I know the modernists have changed many prayers including the Apostles' Creed, the Gloria, and the prayers at the Consecration to make them more "inclusive", more "ecumenical", more like Protestant prayers - but there is little in the Novus Ordo that attains to true, traditional Catholicism.