[Age of Reason]

I believe you were already convinced that Pat was right. I don't believe that my post helped you at all; but, thanks for letting me know.

Even in science, proof is empirical.

Everytime the same results are observed, the surer the theory.

[ResistorSister]

Even in science, proof is empirical

OK...empirical laws suggest that Pat is right...the West is going to die, just like every other great civilzation.