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To: Torie; ChicagoRepublican; Holden Magroin
"Comparing the religious Christian right to the Taliban simply won't pass the suspension of disbelief test with most Americans " -Torie

"Democrats aren't stupid. They're very clever and have some intelligence. If they try to do this they can kiss goodbye to ever winning an election again. Period. " - ChicagoRepublican

"I find it hard to believe that even the Democrats would be dumb enough to use the "religious right" as a campaign issue when the states that are up for grabs this year have a large number of Catholic swing voters or evangelical Christians " -Holden Magroin

Someone said, "no one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American population". Clinton rose to power in 92 by an aggressive and well-organized assault while the senior Bush administration was in deep denial.

I don't think half the people here can even articulate a good defense of the Taliban charge. What's more disconcerting is that most here don't even see its appeal.

Perhaps they didn't grow up among peers lampooning the caricature of a sexually repressed, perpetually constipated and out of control religious fundamentalist blaming all his problems on the lack of morals, values and discipline in kids today. Perhaps they've only dismissed, but never deconstructed liberal intellectual arguments that tolerance, cultural balance and social integration are every bit as important as being technically right. The Taliban analogy may hit home with all those that have been exposed to the culture of the left.

1) Don't repeat the mistake of Bush senior in underestimating the appeal of a well-run Democrat attack.
2) Don't repeat the mistake of Congress believing that America had changed after the Republican revolution of 92.

I think the Taliban comparison will be effective unless a well-organized defense or counter attack is made. But people here are right in your thinking that if the trigger is pulled with this thing, Democrats will be vulnerable to a well organized counter attack. But they can only be made to look small and vindictive if a serious and persistent effort from the top down is made to discredit them, to label them as small obstructionist partisans who are full of hate.

I think that there should be a phrase of some kind that's as succinct and as powerful as "Taliban" that's repeated so much that whenever Taliban is thrown out, the counter automatically comes to mind.

185 posted on 01/02/2002 7:28:04 AM PST by elfman2
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To: elfman2
Perhaps they didn't grow up among peers lampooning the caricature of a sexually repressed, perpetually constipated and out of control religious fundamentalist blaming all his problems on the lack of morals, values and discipline in kids today.

Todays problems ARE caused by lack of morals.
The Ten Commandments say obey your parents, not rebel against them. No killing, therefore less murders. No adultry, therefore less divorce, fatherless children or aids. No stealing, less gun roberries...the list goes on.
If the Ten commandments were obeyed, it would be a paradise on earth.
The Ten commandments could replace the thousands, if not millions, of failing laws written in an attempt to replace them.

Everything liberalism stands for is satanic, i.e., anti-Biblical. That's the only reason they hate us.
They have a different God, as does Bin Laden. Their gods are one and the same. Both meant to destroy, rather than save, mankind.

203 posted on 01/02/2002 8:22:28 AM PST by concerned about politics
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