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The SHOE-BOMBER vs. REAL MEN: What Feminists Have Never Understood, And Try To Distort
Townhall.com ^ | 12/31/01 | Mona Charen

Posted on 01/01/2002 3:03:51 AM PST by Dr. Good Will Hunting

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To: NYpeanut
I need a new hobby. I can't bear another year of retorting to the "repeal the 19th amendment" morons.

You could become a practical pistol competitor. Many women are better at this sport than men.

121 posted on 01/01/2002 11:17:27 AM PST by pcl
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To: pcl
I am sure you do have an appreciation for the male dominated, subservient type of woman who wrote the article. Is that the source of you hatred of women? You hate women because most of them will not bow down at your feet? They will not submit their bodies to your control?

Why do associate everything with sex? It seems to be the focal point of your life. I've already told you I am a woman, so that is another one of your arguments refuted into irrelevance.

And why is it you can't show mervy to the unborn? Might infringe upon your right to screw without consequences? You make me sick.

122 posted on 01/01/2002 11:19:45 AM PST by JMJ333
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To: pcl
POSTED BY PCL

To: JMJ333

the article was written by a women

I am sure you do have an appreciation for the male dominated, subservient type of woman who wrote the article. Is that the source of you hatred of women? You hate women because most of them will not bow down at your feet? They will not submit their bodies to your control?

115 posted on 1/1/02 12:08 PM Pacific by pcl

That is really disgusting. Kind of like your posts insinuating that male pro-life posters get a sexual thrill from anti-abortion discussions. I think you owe JMJ333 an apology. Nobody expects it though, that would be too honorable.

123 posted on 01/01/2002 11:20:35 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: serinde
Also, if the flight attendants on this plane had been armed, there would have been less need to call for help. One - or six, or twelve - shots would have been much more efficient and effective than 6 men fighting one guy. But that might have offended some male egos, though, based on this article. Bad idea. /sarcasm

I highly doubt that you will find many Freepers objecting to arming pilots and flight crew. In fact it has been proposed by many on this forum in reponse to the terror attacks. It would certainly do more than seizing fingernail clippers! The people who want passengers to travel like defenseless sheep tend to be at more liberal sites, not Free Republic.

124 posted on 01/01/2002 11:22:42 AM PST by nightowl_jg
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To: Dr. Good Will Hunting
You're insane.

Maybe so. But even in my insanity I can recognize a woman hating man when I see him posting article after article about male superiority and article after article putting down women. You are obsessed with the topic.

125 posted on 01/01/2002 11:23:38 AM PST by pcl
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To: L_Candide
Let me guess...your pickup has really really big-a$$ wheels too...

Proably. He wears size 7 shoes too.

126 posted on 01/01/2002 11:26:48 AM PST by pcl
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To: Dr. Good Will Hunting
Why did you post a large, crass pro-abortion graphic on a thread about the Christ Child, Baby Jesus?

The article was not really about Baby Jesus. It was another of your many male superiority articles. In this case the article was dealt with you obsession to control female bodies. The post was a totally appropriate response to your misogyny.

127 posted on 01/01/2002 11:33:24 AM PST by pcl
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To: Khepera
PCL is a whore for the blood of aborted babies.

God still love you.

128 posted on 01/01/2002 11:34:19 AM PST by pcl
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To: Catspaw
I'll let my 5' 9" daughter know. She was also a volunteer firefighter for a decade--until her rheumatoid arthritis prevented her from qualifying--and was voted in as chief for four years by a predominately male company because of her qualifications, which included carrying the "average overweight American out of a burning building." And she got no break on her qualifications because she was a woman.

She got no break because she needed none. The standards were "dumbed down" over a decade ago in reponse to lawsuits -- both real and threatened -- filed by "feminist groups."

129 posted on 01/01/2002 11:36:22 AM PST by Exigence
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To: pcl
Why do you hate women?

Now, where did that come from?

I have a question for you: Why are you so touchy?

130 posted on 01/01/2002 11:37:37 AM PST by Exigence
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To: JMJ333
I am a woman, and no I don't hate myself

Is that supposed to explain your obsession with the sex lives of other people?

131 posted on 01/01/2002 11:40:16 AM PST by pcl
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To: JMJ333
Why do associate everything with sex?

You are the one who talks about the sex lives of others. Look at your posts. I could find a dozen where you show your bitterness towards the sex lives of other people. Last night you admitted that your obsession with abortion was due to your obsession with the sex lives of other people.

If you want to hide your obsession with sex you should stop talking about it.

132 posted on 01/01/2002 11:44:18 AM PST by pcl
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To: pcl
Is that really the best rebuttal you could come up with?
133 posted on 01/01/2002 11:44:27 AM PST by JMJ333
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To: Judith Anne
Bad Girl!
134 posted on 01/01/2002 11:44:44 AM PST by pcl
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To: RAY
Unfortunately, when I talk with women about society and government programs - in most cases it seem they lean towards socialism.

In all fairness, some of this has to be laid at the feet of the public ed system.

Not all women are devoid of logic. We just need to learn to celebrate those who have it. That's a much more sensible approach than giving up on an entire gender, especially since women have the vote and outnumber men. Eh?

135 posted on 01/01/2002 11:45:36 AM PST by Exigence
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To: Exigence
She got no break because she needed none. The standards were "dumbed down" over a decade ago in reponse to lawsuits -- both real and threatened -- filed by "feminist groups."

Perhaps you missed that part about me saying she was a firefighter for over a decade, but became a firefighter about 14-15 years ago (she hasn't been able to be a firefighter for the last few years because she has rheumatoid arthritis and can't qualify because of her physical limitations). If there were any changes in the physical agility test, they post-dated her. As I said, she had to haul a 160-165 lb. dummy, haul hose up six flights, plus a number of strength and agility tests--and wearing a vest of 40-50 lbs (to imitate the weight of turnout gear, as she just reminded me). Some of the departments, as another freeper said, lowered the weight of the dummy haul to 125 lbs., but that wasn't the case when she took the test.

136 posted on 01/01/2002 11:50:06 AM PST by Catspaw
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To: pcl
Thanks for bumping the excellent thread!
137 posted on 01/01/2002 11:52:03 AM PST by Judith Anne
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To: Catspaw
I would be willing to bet you, that your daughter was voted Chief, because it was safer for her, and her underlings. At 5'9", she is a little on the small side, but if she could hack it without bending the qualifications of the 60's, she is one in a million. I don't say this to belittle your daughter, but a man that size is probably on the bubble, size wise too. I remember being in PE in high school, we were required to make a lap around the track (440 yards), with a classmate in the firemans carry position. All of the guys did it, but I couldn't imagine more than a couple of girls in school who could do the same, and they are more physically mature than boys at that point in their lives. (age15-16)
138 posted on 01/01/2002 11:52:49 AM PST by jeremiah
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To: Catspaw
I meant safer, because of her organizational skills, and knowledge of technique. Because that is what it takes to survive amongst those more physically gifted.
139 posted on 01/01/2002 11:54:32 AM PST by jeremiah
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To: pcl
I am sure you do have an appreciation for the male dominated, subservient type of woman who wrote the article.

With all due respect, there's not a word in the article that indicates that the writer is either "male-dominated" or "subservient." Perhaps you are projecting your own experiences into a text that seems rather neutral overall?

140 posted on 01/01/2002 11:54:55 AM PST by Exigence
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