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Questions Line the Road for Nascar
New York Times ^ | December 30, 2001 | ROBERT LIPSYTE

Posted on 12/31/2001 5:04:34 PM PST by 07055

THE YEAR AT SPEED 2001
Questions Line the Road for Nascar
By ROBERT LIPSYTE

...... The question that was never asked is whether we really need this particular form of sporting entertainment at all. ..... Certainly, it's not asked inside this restrictively white Christian male preserve that pollutes the environment, wastes natural resources and traditionally sacrifices safety for speed.

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See remainder of article at:

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/30/sports/othersports/30LIPS.html

or in "Source" link above.


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My apologies if this has been posted before---I could not find any articles about NASCAR during the past seven days.
1 posted on 12/31/2001 5:04:34 PM PST by 07055
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To: 07055
You forgot to post a TREE-HUGGING, ENVIOUS, RANTING LIBERAL BARFAROONI ALERT!
2 posted on 12/31/2001 5:13:32 PM PST by petuniasevan
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To: 07055
you forgot to mention sponsor of...."winston cup racing", evil tobacco
3 posted on 12/31/2001 5:15:39 PM PST by hoot2
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To: 07055
Must be a Communist follower of Marx. No one should have anything they don't need so that the wealth can be better spent for the betterment of society.
4 posted on 12/31/2001 5:16:05 PM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: 07055
The question that was never asked is whether we really need this particular form of sporting entertainment at all. .....

That's because in the recorded history of man there has never been anyone that stupid. Until now.

5 posted on 12/31/2001 5:23:31 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: 07055
...... The question that was never asked is whether we really need this particular form of sporting entertainment at all. ..... Certainly, it's not asked inside this restrictively white Christian male preserve that pollutes the environment, wastes natural resources and traditionally sacrifices safety for speed.

Imagine if I wrote this about professional basketball:

"...... The question that was never asked is whether we really need this particular form of sporting entertainment at all. ..... Certainly, it's not asked inside this restrictively black preserve that denigrates teamwork, glorifies promiscuity and violence against women, and entices young black boys to waste their time on the playground in the futile hope of making the pros, rather than furthering their education and becoming productive members of society.

Would I be a racist, or what?

6 posted on 12/31/2001 5:23:56 PM PST by Arleigh
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To: 07055
I guess this guy won't be available to help me with my LT-1/supercharger project.
7 posted on 12/31/2001 5:24:46 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: 07055
I don't want/need to read the rest of this piece and keep my dinner down. These socialist pukes just can't keep their left pointing noses out of others business. Maybe if NASCAR would adopt an EEO policy to ensure that minority-based drivers, mechanics, tire makers, fuel producers, etc. etc. would participate to the point that the percentage of ownership fell below 50%, then do you think these scum would be satisfied? I don't. These slime won't be happy until they could outlaw this sport for all the people that love to watch it. What the race teams ought to do is send this airhead all the worn tires left over from one race - send them to his place of work.
8 posted on 12/31/2001 5:27:28 PM PST by Rockyrich
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To: 07055
this restrictively white Christian male preserve that pollutes the environment, wastes natural resources and traditionally sacrifices safety for speed

No need to click on the link. That little bit of screed tells me all I need to know about the writer's point of view.

9 posted on 12/31/2001 5:32:19 PM PST by SamKeck
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To: 07055
The poster's clever redaction notwithstanding,
the writer does not just target Nascar.

              The question that was never asked is whether we really need this particular
              form of sporting entertainment at all. It's a question that is never asked inside a
              sport, not in boxing, murderous and exploitive, not in big- time college football,
              dangerous and corruptive of higher education. Certainly, it's not asked inside
              this restrictively white Christian male preserve that pollutes the environment,
              wastes natural resources and traditionally sacrifices safety for speed.

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10 posted on 12/31/2001 5:39:14 PM PST by gcruse
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To: gcruse
The poster's clever redaction notwithstanding, the writer does not just target Nascar.

The question that was never asked is whether we really need this particular form of sporting entertainment at all. It's a question that is never asked inside a sport, not in boxing, murderous and exploitive, not in big- time college football, dangerous and corruptive of higher education.

Yes, I did leave out that sentence. I left it out because his comments about boxing or college football are not based on racist and anti-religious bigotry, as are his NASCAR comments.

12 posted on 12/31/2001 6:01:13 PM PST by 07055
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To: 07055
But Nascar's founding family, the Frances, has always seemed fearful of promoting characters that might become bigger than the sport and thus have the power to get a better deal from management by threatening to create a rival league.

As a northeastern ny times reader but cardcarrying conservative, allow me to translate for those of you who are lucky enough to avoid living in this liberal-infested world. This article, even including the disgusting quote that the poster correctly focused on, is by comparison not so bad. I'd put this piece in the file for "we're intellectuals but we really like sports too, so we hope you'll think we're just one of the guys." It's hard to tell, I admit, but I think that's what this article was after.

I thought the article did raise one good point, quoted above, which is that the NASCAR folks are likely to want to avoid the CART/IRL problem that has afflicted indy-car racing.

Y'all have to learn to be tolerant of these people. I live around 'em, and I can tell you -- the efforts of the males of the species to actually act like men should be enncouraged. They need all the help they can get.

13 posted on 12/31/2001 6:15:15 PM PST by JOHN ADAMS
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To: 07055
Some need it, others don't. It is up to those that want it to decide if we have it, though. All else is irrelevant...unless of course you are the New York Times.
14 posted on 12/31/2001 6:27:39 PM PST by BJungNan
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To: isthisnickcool
Ha! I was thinking the same thing. I was wondering if this guy would like to go for a spin in my Dad's 66 Big Block Shelby Mustang.
15 posted on 12/31/2001 6:58:39 PM PST by Channel_Islands_EANx_Diver
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To: Channel_Islands_EANx_Diver

Shelby Mustang. VROOOOMMMMM!!!!!!

16 posted on 12/31/2001 8:34:15 PM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: 07055
Of course Lipsyte would be against the existence of NASCAR (and his paper can't even get the name right -- as NASCAR is an acronym, it should be written in all caps, not as "Nascar.") The outcry of sadness over Dale Earnhardt's death left most of the New York Times' readership feeling ignorant, as they had never even heard of the guy.
17 posted on 12/31/2001 10:41:48 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: DJ88
BUMP!

(You go get'em girl!)

18 posted on 12/31/2001 10:46:26 PM PST by Species8472
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To: Rockyrich
Actually a lot of leftist bile launching has "snobbism" and "classism" at the roots - they don't like guns or gun shows either, knowing that "they're not like us"...
19 posted on 12/31/2001 10:50:28 PM PST by 185JHP
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To: isthisnickcool
I guess this guy won't be available to help me with my LT-1/supercharger project.

Yup, and the jerk would really get upset with the blue bottle and red button in my 64 Cobra.

20 posted on 12/31/2001 11:22:42 PM PST by Cobra64
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