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To: Sparkvark
Christianity or the Church?
Archbishop Ilarion (Troitsky)

Christianity or the Church?

Introduction

Usually, people prefer to remain silent concerning a matter which they know nothing about and do not understand. This, of course, is completely sensible. Let us imagine, for example, a person who knows nothing about chemistry but who, nevertheless, constantly insists upon interfering in the affairs of chemists. He corrects their scientific formulae which have been obtained with great difficulty, changing their order or replacing one with another. We would agree that such a person is acting with the highest degree of imprudence and that we can only have pity for him.

There is one field, however, in which too many people consider themselves to be complete masters, in fact, almost legislators; that is the area concerning the Christian faith and the Church.

In this field also, clear and definite formulae have been established with a great effort of theological thought, spiritual guidance, faith, and piety. These formulae are established and must be accepted on faith.

Regardless of this fact, a great many people enter into the questions of faith and the Church solely as bold and decisive reformers who want to remake everything according to their own personal desires. In cases where such people have insufficient knowledge or understanding, they are especially averse to remaining silent.

To the contrary they begin not only to speak, but to shout. Such shouting on the questions of faith and the Church usually finds the columns of newspapers and the ordinary conversations of people who, in general, very seldom think of faith and the Church at all. If they do think of such things, they prefer to voice themselves exclusively in an authoritative and accusatory tone.

102 posted on 12/31/2001 9:14:45 AM PST by don-o
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To: don-o
Link to full essay is in my #102.

It is even possible to introduce evidence from outside the Church. It is well known how the Protestants have distorted the idea of the Church, preaching some kind of teaching about an "invisible" Church.

This teaching is so vague, obscure and indefinite, that a Lutheran theologian, in an official report at the Diet of Speyer in 1875, declared:

"Our Protestant teaching about the Church still distinguishes itself with such vagueness and inconsistency, that it can be called the Achilles' heel of Protestantism."

104 posted on 12/31/2001 9:24:43 AM PST by don-o
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To: crazykatz; don-o; JosephW; lambo; MarMema; MoJoWork_n; newberger; one_particular_harbour...
An Orthodox ping.

We shouldn't leave don-o to do all of the posting! Plus, he's put up some very good stuff, most of which is already familiar to us, right? ;-)

132 posted on 01/01/2002 7:57:27 AM PST by FormerLib
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