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To: jennyp
Read what I said again. I said "Paraphrase." Got it? Or is reading too hard for you? Or is comprehension something beyond you? Fact is: Thermodynamics is at odds with evolution. Don't like it? Tough.
79 posted on 01/01/2002 2:07:45 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: Darksheare
Fact is: Thermodynamics is at odds with evolution.

Fact is: You don't know squat about thermodynamics. All biological systems are endothermic. Ipso facto all living things are at the bottom end of an enthalpy gradient. This is consistent with the fact that most people believe the sun exists (the high end of the enthalpy gradient).

I get tired of repeating it, and nobody ever refutes it, but thermodynamics allows for local decreases in entropy if the total entropy of the system increases. Biological organisms are examples of decreases in entropy. Massive quantities of enthalpy are expended to reverse entropy (as allowed in thermodynamics) and enormous quantities of entropy are created in the enthalpy transfer. So what is so hard to understand?

And a little more food for thought: If thermodynamics precludes the possibility of evolution, then it also precludes the existence of things such as diamonds, which are also local reversals of entropy by the massive expenditure of enthalpy. Do you believe diamonds exist?

81 posted on 01/01/2002 3:15:32 PM PST by tortoise
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To: Darksheare
Read what I said again. I said "Paraphrase." Got it? Or is reading too hard for you? Or is comprehension something beyond you? Fact is: Thermodynamics is at odds with evolution. Don't like it? Tough.

I know you were paraphrasing. I said so. Then I paraphrased the 2LoT more accurately. You need to read it again, & maybe this time you'll comprehend. Geesh!

To reiterate: The only thing the 2LoT says about evolution is: "All living things must eat." They must eat in order to get energy to flow from outside their body to the inside, because keeping absolute disorder from taking over requires energy from outside the system. Otherwise the body would be a "closed system", and I'm sure even you understand what happens when you use up energy inside a closed system! The key to sustaining life is making sure the organism in question stays an open system.

90 posted on 01/01/2002 8:31:25 PM PST by jennyp
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