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`Indian military more powerful than Pak.'
The Hindu ^ | DEC. 30, 2001

Posted on 12/30/2001 1:23:20 PM PST by Sawdring

WASHINGTON, DEC. 30. India enjoys a strong numerical advantage over Pakistan in both conventional and nuclear weapons, giving it an edge in its current confrontation with its perennial foe, according to data released by a leading United States think-tank.

But a prominent U.S. expert on South Asia also warned that the roughly two-to-one military advantage of the Indian armed forces makes it more likely that a cornered Islamabad could lash out with a nuclear strike. ``If you had a full war between India and Pakistan, not just skirmishes on the border... India would start winning,'' said the former U.S. Ambassador, Mr. Dennis Kux, who has served in both India and Pakistan. ``And at a certain point Pakistan, rather than going under, would push the button,'' he said, appearing on CNN's `The capital gang' show.

According to a report by the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), India, whose population exceeds one billion, has more than 1.2 million soldiers on active duty compared to Pakistan's 6,20,000. A similar advantage is observed in practically all major conventional weapons category, the survey showed.

New Delhi's arsenal includes 3,414 main battle tanks and 1,540 light tanks, while Islamabad's heavy armour is limited to a total of 2,300 pieces. At a time when the U.S. military campaign in Afghanistan has demonstrated the new strength of air power, India appears better positioned to achieve superiority in the sky, if its current tensions with Pakistan were ever to boil over into a shooting war.

India's air bases house 738 combat aircraft while Pakistan's house just 353, according to the CSIS. New Delhi also has nearly a five-fold advantage in transport aircraft and a six- fold one in combat helicopters, which, as events in Afghanistan have shown, can inflict devastating damage on ground troops. In addition, India has 37 naval aircraft compared to Pakistan's five, the report indicated.

Islamabad has an advantage only in self-propelled artillery, being able to field 240 pieces compared to India's 180. But it loses out in towed artillery where New Delhi has a 4,175-to-1,467 advantage, the data showed.

Mr. Kux said geography also favored India because an armoured blitz across the arid Punjab province toward the Afghan border could cut off Islamabad, the capital, from Sindh, the country's economic powerhouse, and its main port of Karachi. ``India could just cut across the middle of Pakistan. In the desert, it should be fairly easy to do.''

But U.S. experts believe that even in an exchange of nuclear strikes, India, while suffering tremendous losses, could have an advantage. Although no reliable official data is available, it is estimated that New Delhi has 400 kg of weapons- usable plutonium, according to the CSIS report. Since it takes about six kg of plutonium to manufacture a nuclear bomb, the amount would be sufficient to produce some 65 bombs if old technologies are used or 90 employing more advanced methods.

By contrast, Pakistan is believed to have more than 200 kg of weapons-grade uranium, which is enough to construct 15 to 25 nuclear weapons, the report said.


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To: classygreeneyedblonde
A picture worth a thousand words...Good job!
21 posted on 12/30/2001 3:45:31 PM PST by mikeIII
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To: mikeIII
Thank you
22 posted on 12/30/2001 3:47:53 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: No!
kid?
23 posted on 12/30/2001 3:48:24 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
In a nice way..... :)
24 posted on 12/30/2001 3:51:26 PM PST by No!
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To: Sawdring
Duhhh....

They got more people....

25 posted on 12/30/2001 3:53:03 PM PST by taxbreak
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To: tet68
No,it [WW3] started on 9-11-01.

Agreed.

26 posted on 12/30/2001 3:55:06 PM PST by Jay W
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To: AGAviator
I think if China is moving troops to areas near India it is just to force India to move troops from the border of Pakistan. Unless things get really out of hand I doubt the Chinese will attack India. Tense situation over there. India and Pakistan need to study the Soviet-US situation and develop hotlines and such so a nuclear conflict doesn't occur.
27 posted on 12/30/2001 3:59:27 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: RightWhale
I don't think India can just roll over Pakistan like the US did to Afghanistan, Serbia, or Iraq. It will be interesting to see how Chinese and American weaponry do against Russian stuff.

Bush should have been taking this situation seriously a lot earlier than this last week.

28 posted on 12/30/2001 4:03:49 PM PST by Sawdring
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To: Qatar-6
What a load of crap-o-la. India demolished the pak army in '71. The only thing that stopped them from going into Pak proper was that the US entered the bay of bengal to stop the indians.
30 posted on 12/30/2001 4:13:21 PM PST by USMMA_83
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To: Sawdring
Bush should have been taking this situation seriously a lot earlier than this last week.

He is talking India down. Unless Pakistan gets too paranoid and attacks, there might not be a war after all. Of course if Pakistan can't control the terrorists after all, who knows. Pakistan should let Indian teams in to assist with closing terrorist bases.

31 posted on 12/30/2001 4:21:45 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: Aaron_A
The Indian Navy is powerful,modern,and well-maintained.The Pakistani Navy is no match.The Indian Armed Forces in general are ighly professional and non-political unlike the Pakistani forces whose commanders are routinely involved in political intrigue.China is a question mark.As in the Middle East the sheer comparison of numbers is secondary to training,motivation,and most important,leadership.India has routinely overwhelmed Pakistan in their past confrontations.India is a fairly democratic,free state.Pakistan is not.I give the edge to India.
32 posted on 12/30/2001 4:29:19 PM PST by steamroller
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To: BLACK STEEL
Thank you
33 posted on 12/30/2001 5:01:00 PM PST by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
No!

You're NOT a "kid"....

At all!

34 posted on 12/30/2001 5:33:10 PM PST by No!
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
But then there is this little problem...

We are currently in bed with Pakistan, and it will take some time for us to wiggle out from under the covers.

35 posted on 12/30/2001 5:54:19 PM PST by Semper911
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To: Semper911
didn't you read the "harsh words" towards pakistan that bush just recently said?
36 posted on 12/30/2001 6:56:26 PM PST by Shuhite
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To: Shuhite
Yes, I read them. "Harsh words" are all Bush has right now because as I said, it will take time for us to get out of bed with them. But at least George W. is reaching for the covers.

Time. We need time to get the hell out.

37 posted on 12/30/2001 7:10:08 PM PST by Semper911
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To: Semper911
heh... who needs time when the CIA probably already has enough evidence against Pakistan for harboring terrorists? What do you call the attack on the parliament?
38 posted on 12/30/2001 9:56:43 PM PST by Shuhite
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To: USMMA_83
The Indians defeated the Paks in East Pakistan

They did not make significant penetrations in the west. there were several inconclusive armored battles though.

The Pak air force has actually had favorable kill ratios in both the 65 and 71 wars. Not spectacular, but about 2-3 in favor of the Paks.

Still won't help them this time, disparity in numbers is too great.

I doubt the Indians stopped because of the Enterprise battle group in the Bay of Bengal. The liberation of Bangladesh was a done deal, what could the CVBG have done?

I stand by my knowledge of the subject. The Indians could not have sustained a multiple corps sized drive deep into Pakistan in 1971.

39 posted on 12/31/2001 4:01:13 PM PST by Qatar-6
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To: Qatar-6
Why did the Pak army surrender en-masse? Your knowledge...who gives a $hit! Selective facts, selective self serving events to bolster your islamist agenda.
40 posted on 12/31/2001 4:36:58 PM PST by USMMA_83
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