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To: tpaine
FR is dedicated, in part, to exposing how our government is abusing our constitution.

While that is not in contention, the fact is all we see from the libertarian ideologues here are moral-liberal arguments for allowing people to destroy themselves. That is a far, far cry from what, say, the Constitution Party advocates, since they are not moral-liberal ideologues as the LP members are.

53 posted on 12/30/2001 12:17:03 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
They hate our borders, they hate our immigration laws, they hate our taxes, the hate our tariffs; and they expect people to buy their claim to love the Constitution which provides for such things.
56 posted on 12/30/2001 12:22:59 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Cultural Jihad
moral-liberal arguments for allowing people to destroy themselves.

Your destruction is hypothetical. The devastation caused by the WOsD is not.

58 posted on 12/30/2001 12:28:27 PM PST by MadameAxe
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To: Cultural Jihad
Why was the first one pulled?

Probably because the purpose of FreeRepublic is not for the advocacy of drug legalization for the spoiled and jaded.

--- Wrong again, cultist. FR is dedicated, in part, to exposing how our government is abusing our constitution. The 'drug war' is a massive part of that unconstitutional activity, and is thus a legitimate topic. - 50 by tpaine

While that is not in contention, the fact is all we see from the libertarian ideologues here are moral-liberal arguments for allowing people to destroy themselves. That is a far, far cry from what, say, the Constitution Party advocates, since they are not moral-liberal ideologues as the LP members are.

Repeating your pitiful 'ideological' argument that FR discussions of ending the drug war somehow advocate drug use is just more of your insanity on the subject.

We have all heard it, over and over. Time to stuff it, as it is an absurd rant.

62 posted on 12/30/2001 12:33:36 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Cultural Jihad
the fact is all we see from the libertarian ideologues here are moral-liberal arguments for allowing people to destroy themselves

I for one, think it would be ridiculous and foolhardy for an individual to destroy his life with drug abuse, promiscuous sexuality, or other potentially harmful vices. I do not advocate these things. I condemn them.

But even as I condemn these actions, I recognize them as rights because they do not initiate force or fraud upon others. The moment initiated force or fraud come into the picture, rights have been violated, and the state has the moral authority to act as a restraining force.

People have a right to make foolish decisions, and the right to live with the consequences of their own foolishness. They have a right, even to act in ways which are potentially harmful to themselves. Smoking, drinking, and consumption of fatty foods come to mind.

Those who recognize the right of rational adults to make their own decisions (even potentially harmful ones) do not endorse vice. They reject arbitrary government influence in the lives of free men.

Government does not exist to make decisions for free adults. It exists to protect rights.

85 posted on 12/30/2001 1:05:18 PM PST by OWK
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