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To: traditionalist
"Hans-Hermann Hoppe, a libertarian who teaches economics at University of Nevada at Las Vegas, has finally set the movement right on this question."

Yeah, right! This guy sounds like a libertarian the way John Ashcroft sounds like a libertarian. ;-) (Well, he's a bit closer than John Ashcroft...)

"Even if there are employers who want immigrants, it does not mean other citizens want to share parks..."

If the citizens don't want to share parks, simply have private parks, and limit the attendance to those who can pay the attendance fee. In other words, those citizens who don't want to share parks should go to private parks.

"...shopping malls, streets, and movie theaters with them."

Just who the @#$% are these people, who don't want to share shopping malls, streets, and movie theaters with immigrants?! What makes these people think WE want to share shopping malls, streets, and movie theaters with THEM?! I say to these people, "Get the @#$% out of America, and let the rest of us share it with hard-working, tax-paying immigrants!"

"Therefore, if capitalists really want foreign workers, they should keep them in self-sufficient company towns rather than force them on the rest of us."

I suggest the author go live in a company town, rather than force himself on the rest of us!

"...the absence of any form of forced integration..."

There is no "forced integration" of U.S. immigrants with "natives." Immigrants buy or rent from people that willingly sell or rent to them. Case closed. If the author or anyone else doesn't want to live next door to immigrants, he should simply buy his neighbors' land whenever the neighbor wants to sell. Or rent from his neighbor when ever his neighbor wants to lease. The author has no "right" to decide who his neighbors should be, anymore than his neighbors have a right to decide whether he should live in his house/rental unit.

"Immigration policy, in Hoppe’s controversial view, is just one example of how democracies are inferior to monarchies."

No, immigration is an example of why democracies are inferior to the constitutional republic these U.S. of A. were designed to be.

"[B]ums and unproductive people may well be preferred as residents and citizens, because they create more so-called ‘social problems,’ and democratic rulers thrive on the existence of such problems."

That's why the U.S. should be the constitutional republic it was designed to be, rather than the democracy it currently is. The FEDERAL rulers would be prevented from attempting to solve social problems by the 10th Amendment. And State and local rulers would be checked by the fact that, if they invite a bunch of bums to their area, everyone else (i.e., those that actually pay taxes) will leave. (Or those who are already there will simply refuse to sell/rent to the bums, assuming that the bums don't have enough money to meet market prices.)

"Prof. Hoppe takes the view that cultural conservatism is not compatible with the big-government nanny-state democracy inevitably brings."

Like I wrote before, the U.S. was NOT designed as a democracy, but as a constitutional republic. If only Republicans would join Libertarians (and to a far lesser extent, Constitutional Party members) in demanding that the federal government be returned to its constitutional limits! Since Republicans are currently hold the Presidency, the House, almost the Senate, and the Supreme Court, if Republicans would actually follow the Constitution, virtually all problems would be solved!

"What to do? Prof. Hoppe thinks it is pointless to tinker with policy, thereby leaving the “territorial monopolist of compulsion” in place. He insists on outright abolition of government, with private, competing organizations assuming its few genuinely useful functions. He thinks insurance companies could protect against crime and invasion, just as they do against natural disasters. He also thinks that in the absence of government, natural aristocrats would arise to arbitrate contract disputes between citizens."

Professor Hoppe is a capitalist-anarchist, not a libertarian. Libertarians recognize the usefulness of limited government. Especially a limited federal government, as specified in the Constitution and its amendments.

In short, the more realistic solution to the vast majority of problems associated with immigration (and everything else) would be if Republican elected officials actually followed the Constitution! (Crazy thought, I realize.)

Mark (real Libertarian)

16 posted on 01/02/2002 1:30:45 PM PST by Mark Bahner
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To: Mark Bahner
Mark,

I think you missed the good professor's point, which is that a Constinutional Republic is an inherently unstable system doomed to degenrate into a mob-rule democracy like ours, if it is not overthrown by some coup first. It surly didn't take much to destroy ours.

21 posted on 01/03/2002 10:12:25 PM PST by traditionalist
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