America First: Why we need to examine our insane Foreign policy

self | 12/29/2001 | Demidog

[carenot]

The old America is the moral equivalent of the Taliban argument again?

Bless yer little heart.

I am trying to like you, but you are making it hard to like you.

[Rowdee]

Hmmm....glad I checked back in here......couldn't help but laugh at this post......he sure do seem to have an unnatural affection for Pravda, among other weird ideas!! LOL.

[Rowdee]

Isn't that the little action that effectively wiped out 2 city blocks?

[Rowdee]

You mean state parks that are administered by the government closer to the people; who are a lot more answerable to the people for how these parks and stuff are taken care of?

[Rowdee]

Sure that was one of the racing guys kids.....one of Al Unser's kids.

[Rowdee]

..."At whom was all this firepower aimed? The targets were four men, three women and six children -- members of an anti-government, urban survivalist cult called MOVE."...

Well, this author certainly did miss with his thesis!!! He failed to report that this was done "for the chilrun"!

Seriously, Poe is more right on that he could possibly be off.

[mindprism.com]

Can't bear leaving the plantation?

By reading the discussion you will discover that we are talking about a legal issue that is -- he purports -- unaffected by physical location of the individual as well as their voluntary renunciation of citizenship.

[Buckeroo]

We have no system. It is controlled by methods beyond your control. And agreeing with any government method displays your nakedness to the truth about America.

[mindprism.com]

Hey Roscoe, I'm always interested in how people think, and why. You seem to think a lot differently than many people here, so I'd like your opinion on something and if you would be so kind to explain how you come to your views on this question, I'd be grateful:

In your opinion, in a civilized nation under what circumstances would a militant uprising or intifada be justified? Does it require conditions or a percentage of the population, what mixture of things? At what point would Roscoe pick up his gun to reclaim freedom? Give a brief outline and the logic supporting it.

Is "anything short of taking away guns or the vote" essentially permissible in your world-view?

When do "armed marches/protests" become appropriate?

[Roscoe]

In your opinion, in a civilized nation under what circumstances would a militant uprising or intifada be justified? Does it require conditions or a percentage of the population, what mixture of things?

Sounds like a Blue Book for parlor Revolutionaries.

[Buckeroo]

You don't care about national parks. You care about a government that agrees with you.

[JakeWyld]

No problem. Thank you for referencing. I can't say that any of my ideas will make the world a "better place to live in". For some people they may not. However, not being so shaky on who we are allied with might do just that. Example being that while we pay foreign aid to Israel we also pay foreign aid to her enemies. This is just odd to me, unless I am missing something. The fact that the money we hand out is also used by despots to wage war makes no sense to me.

Also, the U.S.A. is called in a lot to mediate between nations, if they ask for our help we should try our best to do so. Paying foreign aid to nations make us seem less impartial and more open to attack by smear agents looking to capitalize on that fact. Namely our media...

I hope this makes sense...as I am not sure of your own thoughts on the subject.

[Rowdee]

Exactly.

What 'they' don't seem to understand is that the Anti-Federalists wanted to be even more restrictive....not more loose and open to ludicrous interpretation. To listen to them and the likes of Waters, Dingall, Rangel, Owens, and Kennedy, the Founding Fathers were to the left of them!!!

[JakeWyld]

Hmmm....I read what you said several times and it seemed to me like comparing apples and oranges. Maybe if you were to expound a little I might understand what you are getting at.

However, at face value you have a point. Although (unless I missed it) I haven't seen any strict examples of "nation building". Of course I haven't paid attention to how this new guy Korzai(sp?) was installed. I may be a little behind the times. :)

[Pay now bill Clinton]

Sounds like a Blue Book for parlor Revolutionaries.

Based on your response, does that mean you wouldn't have fought for the American Revolutionary War (had you lived then)?

[Roscoe]

On December 16, 1773, Libertarians would have sided with the East Indian Company.