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America First: Why we need to examine our insane Foreign policy
self | 12/29/2001 | Demidog

Posted on 12/29/2001 9:27:49 AM PST by Demidog

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To: Roscoe
To: "You don't have the right to run a crappy business
and have the government bail you out."

- Demidog

The company had no right to demand assistance,
but the government had the right to extend it.
Take a couple of deep breaths and think about it.
# 734 by Roscoe

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If I think about it,
nobody, not even my government,
has the right to give my money
to a badly ran business.

Let them declare bankruptcy.
I have better uses for my charity.

741 posted on 12/30/2001 10:13:42 AM PST by exodus
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To: RGSpincich
"In his memo to Ashcroft, the president explained his decision.

“Disclosure to Congress of confidential advice to the attorney general regarding the appointment of a special counsel and confidential recommendations to Department of Justice officials regarding whether to bring criminal charges would inhibit the candor necessary to the effectiveness of the deliberative process by which the department makes prosecutorial decisions,” Bush wrote.

He added, “It is my decision that you should not release these documents or otherwise make them available to the committee. ... I have decided to assert executive privilege.” Burton decried the decision. “This is not a monarchy,” he said. “The legislative branch has oversight responsibility to make sure there is no corruption in the executive branch.”

742 posted on 12/30/2001 10:16:18 AM PST by carenot
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To: Roscoe
To: exodus.
Exactly.
Congress makes the rules
regarding the disposition of federal property.
# 740 by Roscoe

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That's what I said.
Auctions are Constitutionally allowed.

Commercial enterprises are not.
Government is not allowed
to participate in private sector profits.

743 posted on 12/30/2001 10:18:19 AM PST by exodus
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To: carenot
One of the things Burton was asking for.

What was he asking for and from who?

744 posted on 12/30/2001 10:18:34 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: exodus
If I think about it, nobody, not even my government, has the right to give my money to a badly ran business.

The attacks of 9/11 did tremendous damage to our nation's airlines. Congress may take steps to try to minimize that damage.

If you don't like the policy, write your Congressman.

745 posted on 12/30/2001 10:21:09 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: exodus
Auctions are Constitutionally allowed.

There isn't any mention of "auctions" in the Constitution. According to the Constitution, Congress sets the rules regarding the manner in which it disposes of federal property. Auctions, sales, leases; that's up to Congress to decide.

746 posted on 12/30/2001 10:24:30 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: exodus; Roscoe
"Roscoe, you are wrong to assume that I don't support Israel. My pointing out that you are wrong doesn't make me anti-Roscoe."

Whew! I am ROTF!

747 posted on 12/30/2001 10:26:36 AM PST by carenot
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To: Roscoe
"American government is an unbroken history of thievery, and every state, county and city in our country are thieves"

HeHe

748 posted on 12/30/2001 10:32:21 AM PST by carenot
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To: carenot
The article accuses Israel of killing kids, proclaims that using tax money to assist them is theft and that our policy of support is insane.

The article is innocent as a baby. Baby rattlesnake.

749 posted on 12/30/2001 10:32:52 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe

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Yes it does, Roscoe.
Use your own source,
Article 1, Section 8.
Go to Clause 14. "To make Rules for the Government..."

How to dispose of government property
would be covered under "rules for the government."
# 731 by exodus

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To: exodus
So if the rules provided for profit,
it would be Constitutional by your own argument.
Another self-refutation.
# 739 by Roscoe

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"Always throw it out in the yard" is a rule.
"Always dispose of property at auction" is a rule.

"Buy a building, fill it with government workers,
make good products, and sell them for a profit"
is a business.

"Rules" are allowed.
"Business" is not.

750 posted on 12/30/2001 10:33:41 AM PST by exodus
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To: carenot
A lot of us are trying to put our Country right again. Unfortunately the liberal run shame stream media keeps demonizing us at every turn.
The press today doesn't report the truth anymore they bury it, they put such a spin on it that it doesn't even resemble anything like the truth anymore.
The news isn't reported, its created.

"There is no such thing, at this date of the world's history, in America as an independent press. You know it and I know it.
There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinions, and if you did, you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the streets looking for another job.
If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty- four hours my occupation would be gone.
The business of the journalists is to destroy the truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify; to fawn at the feet of mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread.
You know it and I know it and what folly is this toasting an independent press?

We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men.
We are intellectual prostitutes."

John Swinton, former Chief of staff for the New York Times. Called by his peers “The Dean of His profession.” He stated the above when He was asked to give a toast before the New York Press Club in 1953.

751 posted on 12/30/2001 10:33:59 AM PST by Mikey
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To: carenot
"American government is an unbroken history of thievery, and every state, county and city in our country are thieves"

HeHe

The Libertarian position is laughable.

752 posted on 12/30/2001 10:35:50 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Mikey
Urban myth.
753 posted on 12/30/2001 10:36:30 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: Demidog
It is ignorant to think that Islamist radical give a crap about America's foreign policy. They hate western civilization, and attack all western nations, even those with poor relationships with Israel. They want to impose Islam on the entire world. (Just like the Nazis and Communist wanted to impose their idealogy) Appeasment will only encourage them. If you can't learn from history, then you are a fool.
754 posted on 12/30/2001 10:37:08 AM PST by imperator2
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To: Roscoe
I am late to this thread. I don't mean to be pickin' on you, but...

"And wait for an attack to occur before "using tax dollars." Terrorist just hafta love that."

Ain't that what just happened?

755 posted on 12/30/2001 10:38:08 AM PST by carenot
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To: Huck
I've been aware of that Chomsky guy for a while. He's one of the biggest idiots in the world.
756 posted on 12/30/2001 10:38:48 AM PST by Michael2001
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To: Roscoe

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"...nobody, not even my government,
has the right to give my money
to a badly ran business.
Let them declare bankruptcy.
I have better uses for my charity.
# 741 by exodus

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To: exodus
The attacks of 9/11 did tremendous damage to our nation's airlines.
Congress may take steps to try to minimize that damage.
If you don't like the policy, write your Congressman.
# 745 by Roscoe

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Saying
"if you don't like it, write your Congressman"
is the same as saying "shut up."

I'm talking to you, Roscoe.
I want your opinion, not useless advice.

757 posted on 12/30/2001 10:41:41 AM PST by exodus
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To: carenot
Ain't that what just happened?

More or less. Clinton said he was a libertarian.

758 posted on 12/30/2001 10:44:08 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: exodus
I want your opinion, not useless advice.

Opinions are like bellybuttons. The actual Constitution is there for the reading.

759 posted on 12/30/2001 10:45:33 AM PST by Roscoe
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To: general_re
""Our government claimed a 33 percent cut of a private company." The government did no such thing. It asked for something to back a loan it was offering, and received it."

Doesn't that mean they get 33% of profit, if there is any, plus the repayment of the loan?

I really am asking.
I don't know what this means.

760 posted on 12/30/2001 10:48:11 AM PST by carenot
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