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America First: Why we need to examine our insane Foreign policy
self | 12/29/2001 | Demidog

Posted on 12/29/2001 9:27:49 AM PST by Demidog

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To: Texasforever
Our Founding Fathers who fought to create this nation are evil "nationalists" in their eyes.
561 posted on 12/29/2001 8:51:52 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: RGSpincich
You do your share of name calling too.

Really? I have used the word Troll on several occasions in this thread as it was obviously true. Trolling for a response is easy to spot by the blatantly off-topic replies. I have also called two people here race-baiters because in fact they are absolutely and without question race-baiters. Other than that, you be sure and post a reference to what it is you believe you are referring to.

562 posted on 12/29/2001 8:52:56 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Roscoe
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You were given ample examples of it but you chose to ignore them. I'll define insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

Discuss.

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563 posted on 12/29/2001 8:53:50 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Roscoe;Texasforever
Our Founding Fathers who fought to create this nation are evil "nationalists" in their eyes.

Roscoe will now show one of the founders calling a dissenter a "hate-America firster."

564 posted on 12/29/2001 8:54:12 PM PST by Demidog
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To: exodus
Our government was wrong
Our government was wrong
Our government was wrong
Our government was wrong

And don't forget that the Bush administration's foreign policy is insane. And that we should abandon Israel. And that the videotape of OBL is faked.

565 posted on 12/29/2001 8:55:56 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: exodus
Our government is wrong to nationalize airlines.

Not true. There is no Airline Amtrac.

566 posted on 12/29/2001 8:55:59 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Demidog
What did the Founding Fathers think of Benedict Arnold?
567 posted on 12/29/2001 8:57:00 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Rowdee
Big Yawn. Nobody is siding with Reno. I'm saying someone needs to pick up the ball and run with it. Call your rep. and senators get to the point where they have evidence of wrong doing pointing to specific documents covered by the EO. Then proceed.

Do you even know which papers are covered by the EO? You are citing all kinds of cases that are easily investigated by congress and the president is not hampering them at all.

568 posted on 12/29/2001 8:57:06 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: Texasforever
Nationalism should always be used as an epithet. It is a discredited political ideology that has always resulted in mass murder. Edward Bellamy and his cousin Francis (yes that Francis Bellamy) tried to foist Nationalism on the U.S. back in the 1800's.

We didn't buy but Hitler and Mussolini later did.

569 posted on 12/29/2001 8:57:24 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Roscoe
Don't you know?
570 posted on 12/29/2001 8:58:23 PM PST by Demidog
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To: Demidog
Forget it. It's from another thread that I read recently and was surprised at your response to an individual. Sorry to have brought it up.
571 posted on 12/29/2001 8:59:43 PM PST by RGSpincich
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To: nunya bidness
You were given ample examples of it but you chose to ignore them. I'll define insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

That's supposed to be an argument for appeasement of the Taliban?

572 posted on 12/29/2001 8:59:49 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Texasforever
To: Demidog
"Anti-Semites frequently insist
that they are merely opposing "Zionism."
# 502 by Roscoe

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Socialists frequently tell us to trust our leaders,
and to stop interfering with the work of government.
# 507 by exodus

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To: exodus
Paranoids often tell us to never trust anything or anyone.
What is your point?
BTW, I am not out to get you.
# 511 by Texasforever

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I know, Texasforever.
You're a friend.

My point is that Roscoe is changing the subject.
Roscoe is trying to turn this into a shouting match about Israel,
instead of a thread about how those who question
any aspect of government are labeled "anti-American."

573 posted on 12/29/2001 9:00:59 PM PST by exodus
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To: Demidog
Don't you know?

Since he put personal profit before national interest, Benedict's libertarian tendencies must have been revolting to the Founding Fathers.

574 posted on 12/29/2001 9:02:31 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: exodus
From the first post in the thread:

When we decry any actions taken by Israel, we are "anti-semites." When Israel admitted that they had set a booby trap near an area where children played and 5 Palestinian boys died when it went off, you couldn't get near the topic without being ridiculed.

575 posted on 12/29/2001 9:05:25 PM PST by Roscoe
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To: Demidog
Nationalism should always be used as an epithet. It is a discredited political ideology that has always resulted in mass murder. Edward Bellamy and his cousin Francis (yes that Francis Bellamy) tried to foist Nationalism on the U.S. back in the 1800's.

How is nationalism any different than "America-first"

576 posted on 12/29/2001 9:06:53 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
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"...Our government is wrong to nationalize airlines..."
# 560 by exodus

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To; exodus
Not true.
There is no Airline Amtrac.
# 566 by Texasforever

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But there is, Texasforever.
It's called America West Airlines.
Our government claimed a 33 percent cut of a private company.

Here's the thread, posted by carenot earlier today.

577 posted on 12/29/2001 9:08:36 PM PST by exodus
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To: RGSpincich
..."You are citing all kinds of cases that are easily investigated by congress and the president is not hampering them at all"....

Big yawn back at ya! Take it up with Dan Burton...

578 posted on 12/29/2001 9:10:00 PM PST by Rowdee
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To: RGSpincich;Roscoe
No problem man. I don't claim to be perfect. But I love America and I don't think that cricism of its policies foreign or otherwise is tantamount to treason or hating America and I and many others are damn sick and tied of being accused of that. I am an American just like you. Born here, raised here and I'm raising my family here.

Some of my ancestors were marched 3,000 miles from the Carolinas to Oklahoma Territory onto a reservation. My Great Grandfather was a fire boss in some of the largest coal mines in the west and never lost a man on his watch. 30 years and he never lost a man. That's something to be proud of.

One of my Great great grandfathers was a Texas Ranger and has a monument put up for him after dying in a battle with Indians. Ironic. One side of my family was Indians and the other was killing Indians.

But that doesn't matter to the scumbags like Roscoe who is more eager to paint me and others as Aryan nations types if it will serve his agenda.

Sometimes I'll get pissed. Call me an anti-american to my face and you'll end up with a mouth full of teeth. Do it here and I might just call you a name too. My family fought and died for this country. It aint up to you or anyone else to make that accusation.

579 posted on 12/29/2001 9:10:35 PM PST by Demidog
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