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Oh, I know it has been out there. I've worked on the front lines at Pregnancy Counseling Centers. I was trying to make the point that our world is so screwed up that my sisters in womanhood somehow don't think there would be no psychological problems with killing a baby. Of course there are - and not just for the women but for the boyfriends, husbands, grandmothers etc.

My better than better half has often articulated the same point. She is for more published pictures of the child at it's earliest recognizable stages. As I understand it takes a recognizable form real early.

and not just for the women but for the boyfriends, husbands, grandmothers... My present girlfriend said if she became pregnant from me it will be her last (meaning she would never abort it and won't have children with anyone else again - we have ideas of marriage). But she told me about a previous abortion and how the man had cried and cried. I said don't you feel sick about that? She said well he wasn't going to stick around - why should I have kept it? My arguement didn't go very far, but I did tell her that this told me something about her and left it at that. She will soon be at that age, and I feel I will truely be her last chance at it. If we were younger, I would probably have dumped her then. I know she really wants to have a child with me, but I sometimes feel like those who abort a child in the past shouldn't be aloud the privilege of a pregnancy and the beauty of child birth. So I'm really going to think things out first.