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Hurrah for Isolationists
Lew Rockwell ^ | December 28, 2001 | Joe Sobran

Posted on 12/29/2001 12:08:16 AM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName

Sixty years after Pearl Harbor, we are at war again, and comparisons with 1941 are inevitable. Some people think the country ain’t what it used to be. And they’re right: it ain’t. But there are interesting parallels.

Writing in The Weekly Standard, David Brooks notes that America in 1941 was far more upbeat than today:

"Everybody had a patriotic duty, it seems, to be optimistic. Being happy was a sign of success. It wasn’t yet cool be thoughtfully gloomy or alienated." This spirit was reflected in the American press, which was much more eager for war then than now.

Brooks supports this portrait of 1941 with many citations from the press of that time. Unfortunately, he overlooks a crucial fact: many of those "patriots" who boosted war were driven by foreign sympathies.

Brooks quotes disproportionately from two magazines:

The Nation and Life. The Nation was hardly a mainstream publication: it was the leading pro-Soviet magazine of its day. Even before Pearl Harbor, it had called for U.S. intervention into World War II on the Soviet side. No wonder it rejoiced when the United States was pulled into the war. As one of its writers exulted, "Here is the time when a man can be what an American means, can fight for what America has always meant – an audacious, adventurous seeking for a decent earth."

But Brooks fails to mention that Joseph Stalin had a substantial "amen corner" in this country, and especially in the press. It was hardly pure patriotism that made such people pro-war; when Stalin turned openly anti-American after the war, they became anti-American too.

Life magazine was the creature of Henry Luce, a globalist who had his own reasons for supporting war. Born in China, the son of Protestant missionaries, Luce deeply loved China and hated its Japanese conquerors. He hoped America would rescue China and establish a benign hegemony over the whole world.

Another foreign country had its partisans here:

Great Britain. Many Americans, especially people of English stock in the East, wanted the United States to save the "mother country" from Germany. But this too was a minority sentiment. Before Pearl Harbor, most Americans strongly opposed going to war, especially if it meant sacrificing their sons to foreign interests. Arthur Schlesinger (again The Nation) argued that the Republican Party must, in Brooks’s words, "jettison its heartland isolationism and embrace the East Coast establishment’s internationalism."

As Brooks notes, "The belligerent voices were on the left; the doves were on the far right, and Pearl Harbor delivered a crushing blow to those isolationists." Well, it was hardly "the far right." It was indeed the "heartland" of the United States. At least 80 per cent of the country had been "isolationists," if that’s what you call wanting to spare your sons’ lives. The shock of Pearl Harbor changed everything in a flash.

Since World War I, American enthusiasts for war have featured "amen corners" for several foreign countries:

Britain, the Soviet Union, China, and, today, Israel. All these groups have agitated for war and, through the press and other media, deluged the public with propaganda. Britain even produced movies designed to influence American opinion its way; Winston Churchill himself helped write the script for That Hamilton Woman, starring Laurence Olivier as Lord Nelson and Vivien Leigh as his mistress. It portrayed Nelson’s heroism against Napoleon, in implied analogy to Britain’s struggle against Hitler.

So the relation between America in 1941 and America in 2001 is a little more complicated, the contrast less stark, than Brooks would have us believe. In fact The Weekly Standard illustrates the point. Just as the earlier pro-war press wanted America to fight the enemies of Britain, China, and the Soviet Union, the Standard wants America to fight the enemies of Israel. It won’t settle for defeating Osama bin Laden and his Taliban allies; it insists that America must also make war on Iraq and other countries opposed to Israel.

So when we hear patriotic-sounding voices calling for war, we ought to ask who really wants war, who stands to benefit from it, and why. Time and again the most genuinely patriotic people – derided by the elites as "heartland isolationists" – have had the real interests of America at heart.

Copyright (c) 2001 by Griffin Internet Syndicate. All rights reserved.


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To: tex-oma
"WHAT IS A PATRIOT?"

PATRIOTS are not "Revolutionaries" trying to overthrow the government of the United States.

PATRIOTS are "Counter-Revolutionaries" trying to prevent the government of the United States from overthrowing the Constitution of the United States. - Unknown Author

What brings the PATRIOTS out of the woodwork?

When the constitutional process, the system of checks and balances set up by the Founders, has not just been thrown out of kilter, it has been thrown out the window. These socialist maneuvers are what attracts PATRIOTS to the streets of America.

The CONSTITUTION has been thrown farther off track since 9/11! Of course this should not be mentioned in political circles, especially within earshot of your Congressman or local reporter.

21 posted on 12/29/2001 6:10:45 AM PST by B4Ranch
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To: Penny1
If Mr. Rockwell were to have his way, we would lose several thousand MORE American citizens at the hands of Saddam Hussein and his thugs before taking out America's enemies in Iraq and elsewhere.

When has Iraq attacked America and why do we have so many enemies?

23 posted on 12/29/2001 6:32:46 AM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
How many would have died if we were staying home to begin with?

Good question. What makes America's political class think they rule the world and why do we let them get away with it?

24 posted on 12/29/2001 6:37:18 AM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: tex-oma
Thanks for the ping. Sobran is right on.
25 posted on 12/29/2001 6:38:35 AM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
Hurrah for Sobran!
26 posted on 12/29/2001 6:48:15 AM PST by IM2Phat4U
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To: UnBlinkingEye
"How many would have died if we were staying home to begin with?"

Good question. Ask the South Vietnamese...the ones that didn't die in reeducation camps or drown in the China Sea, that is.

27 posted on 12/29/2001 7:08:34 AM PST by Frances_Marion
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To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
"The Nation and Life. The Nation was hardly a mainstream publication: it was the leading pro-Soviet magazine of its day. Even before Pearl Harbor, it had called for U.S. intervention into World War II on the Soviet side."

NCFBTN, The intelligencia {FDR} had NO interest in entering World War II UNTIL Hitler attacked "Mother Russia". THEN, the caterwalling began. Peace and love, George.

28 posted on 12/29/2001 7:09:35 AM PST by George Frm Br00klyn Park
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To: Frances_Marion
I think NoCurrentFreeperByThatName was refering to American deaths. Do you think it is America's role to fight in every war around the world? I don't want any American to die for the cause of globalism.
29 posted on 12/29/2001 8:04:36 AM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: dennisw
It is perfectly fine for you to disagree with Sobran's take on an issue. This is the perfect place for debate of that nature. However, debating his viewpoint is entirely different than slamming it simply because you don't like the source it was taken from.
30 posted on 12/29/2001 8:05:21 AM PST by riley1992
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To: B4Ranch
The CONSTITUTION has been thrown farther off track since 9/11! Of course this should not be mentioned in political circles, especially within earshot of your Congressman or local reporter.

I think if Congress and the press had their way the Constitution would be buried in the Arlington National Cemetery along with all those who died defending it.

31 posted on 12/29/2001 8:10:32 AM PST by UnBlinkingEye
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To: KantianBurke
It's real easy. If you don't want to read it, don't click on the link.
32 posted on 12/29/2001 11:58:36 AM PST by AKbear
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To: dennisw
His crew spam...

Are you saying NoCurrentFreeperByThatName works for Rockwell?

As I said to KantianBurke, if you don't want to read this, then don't click on the link.

33 posted on 12/29/2001 12:02:51 PM PST by AKbear
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To: NoCurrentFreeperByThatName;tex-oma
Bump! Disregard the Lew Rockwell bashers. It seems they just want to shout down any opposing opinions. They would rather bash than debate.

Good article, btw.

34 posted on 12/29/2001 12:08:41 PM PST by AKbear
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To: tex-oma
--I think war should be a last resort. A very good "first resort" is to not allow the international blood profits at any costs folks to run our foreign policy for their personal profit, and then use the US military to clean up their messes after them. The unfortunate cirtcumstances we find ourselves in though, is every electiuon cycle, we can pick from blood profits candidate A or B, if we choose 'c" then we get condemened for 'wasting our vote". Well, I'm for "wasting" my vote that way, rather than "wasting" foreigners and our own troops in the big war fake out scams.
35 posted on 12/29/2001 1:56:19 PM PST by zog
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