Mark Steyn: War between America and Europe

The Spectator (U.K.) ^ | 12/27/2001 | Mark Steyn

[kittyface]

Another great article from Steyn. He gives an interesting (if controversial) explanation on why America supports Israel, whereas Europe leans towards the Palestinians. No doubt about where his sympathies lie. I also like the fact that he's not afraid to make negative observations about conservatives when it's apt- unlike a certain famous radio host, and various Fox News pundits.

By the way, does anyone know if Steyn himself is Jewish? My guess would be that he is.

[NewAmsterdam]

I merely descended to your level. It's way past your bedtime. Go to sleep.

[ambrose]

Do you have these medals?

[ambrose]

Anti-Semitic slurs have long become the norm at football matches in the Netherlands. Hissing, slogans and chants such as “Hamas, Hamas, Jews to the gas” are often heard during games.

You like soccer?

http://www.tau.ac.il/Anti-Semitism/asw99-2000/netherlands.htm

[Bahbah]

You are so right, NA. Two horrible wars in your front yard can affect one's psyche deeply. This is something many Americans don't understand, but Sept. 11 opened some eyes.

[Bahbah]

Excellent point.

[Bahbah]

Excellent point.

[vrwc54]

1. Jews are far stronger politically in America than Europe.

I wonder why that could be? I guess it might have something to do with WW2.

[Matchett-PI]

"..to damn them is to damn yourself."

I'm assuming you're basing that belief on what you've been taught by one of the various flavors of traditional or pop-culture Dispensationl preachers.

In reality, as regards the New Testament, there is no special significance to the modern secular state of "Israel." Ethnically, they are German, Polish, English, Romanian, Russian, Turkish, Kazaharian, etc....but biological, lineal descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? Biologically doubtful, theologically irrelevant (as regards *New* Testament belief). HERE

Nevertheless, I will back Isreal (or any other country) to the hilt, that stands for freedom and democracy and backs it up by protecting it's citizen's *God-given* rights / liberties.

[Prodigal Daughter]

Thank you for the link and information! Bookmarked.

[Starrling]

Please add me to the Steyn ping list.

[Pokey78]

Done.

[madrussian]

Nice non-sequitur and avoidance.

[wardaddy]

Essentially my thoughts as well on why I support Israel in addition to the fact that I've spent a fair amount of time there and like them.

[wardaddy]

Thanks for the ping....sorry to reply late...was off hunting yesterday.

Steyn writes from a passionate perspective which I agree with generally but some of his opining is a bit broad brushed.

There are legions of predominately Christian Arabs in this country who are quite enterprising and have been for a couple of centuries now...Lebanese and Syrian Catholics for example.

America supports Israel not only because she is a "liberal democracy" but also exactly because she is representative of a Jewish state and America does collectively feel a sense of redress concerning the horrible events of WWII and the European Jews.

I would hope that when America's predominately liberal Jewish populace view the entrenched anti-Jewish sentiment amongst the evergrowing Euro-Socialist states that it would give them pause here to consider where they wish America to continue heading and perhaps they would see the light....and begin shifting towards Conservatism in droves. On a similar note....the antagonism that many Conservatives have for Jews in this country is not because they are Jewish or successful or controlling or any of the other generalizations ....save for one.....that they are overwhelmingly liberal humanist...and often at the vanguard of political thought which we (Conservatives) so staunchly oppose. I pray that this will change...it would be best for them and for us. I do believe that today there are probably more Jewish Conservatives in America than I've witnessed in my lifetime. May that trend continue.

[NewAmsterdam]

I don't, but you are obviously fascinated by them. No go back to sleep, otherwise I'll perform a partial-birth-abortion on you.

[NewAmsterdam]

I don't, but you are obviously fascinated by them. Now go back to sleep, otherwise I'll perform a partial-birth-abortion on you.

[NewAmsterdam]

Steyn is a Canadian Jew. Get one thing engraved in your brain, please: there is no such thing as 'Europe'. There is not. There is an EU. There is a Council of Europe. But otherwise there are still only European nations.