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W.W.J.D? (A Mockery of Christ's Love)
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 12/27/01 | Stephanie Salter

Posted on 12/27/2001 4:09:40 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:39:17 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]


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Comment #41 Removed by Moderator

To: Rooper
Maybe if this place wasn't so insular and defensive, your membership numbers would quadruple.

We appreciate your concern, but can only hope that it will shortly be reduced by one.

P.S. I really hate your greasy quasi-feminine tone.

42 posted on 12/27/2001 5:20:37 AM PST by Stentor
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I do not hear you ask yourself or anyone else the question you once asked all the time: "What would Jesus do?"

I don't remember GWB asking this. I remember Al Gore asking it at some appearance, but not GWB.

43 posted on 12/27/2001 5:20:59 AM PST by thatsnotnice
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To: Rooper
According to the Roman Empire, what Jesus did was a capital offence......... Wrong.....John 18:38-40...Pilate who was the Roman Governor of Caiaphas...He even said: I find no basis for a charge against him. My suggestion to you is to educate yourself before you open your mouth...
44 posted on 12/27/2001 5:24:20 AM PST by Timetowakeup
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To: Khepera
Are you ignorant or just a liberal...?<\I>

Isn't this a redundant question?

45 posted on 12/27/2001 5:24:52 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky
sorry
46 posted on 12/27/2001 5:25:26 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Rooper
This is an ignorant statement. Bush did not execute anyone--the Texas Department of Justice did it. He had no input whatsoever, moron. Why don't you bone up on Texas law a little before you make these kind of statement. Oh, yeh, I forgot, liberals only spout lies, not facts. And this is one of their favorites.
47 posted on 12/27/2001 5:28:21 AM PST by 2-in-Texas
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To: Rooper
He has the power of commutation.

True enough; however, that power is conditional as provided by law. And even if he had the power to run rampant with pardons and commutations, he wasn't inclined to make a mockery of the law, as did the outgoing Bill Clinton.

49 posted on 12/27/2001 5:37:57 AM PST by Marauder
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To: Rooper
But seriously Rooper.

The book of John is such a short easy read. Why don't you take some time today to read it through? I'd be happy to debate it with you in more detail afterwards.

By the way, I'm speaking of the Gospel of John, which appears just after the Book of Luke in the New Testament of the Bible. Most Bibles have a Table of Contents near the beginning to get you started. Please don't confuse it with the three books of John which appear near the end of the New Testament.

50 posted on 12/27/2001 5:39:48 AM PST by keats5
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To: Rooper
You apparently dont have a clue about the number of members FR has. Its quite alot.
52 posted on 12/27/2001 5:44:10 AM PST by smith288
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To: 2-in-Texas
Check his post #13 - either he misspelled "offense" or he is British, which might explain his lack of familiarity with Texas law, as well as his liberalism, which in turn would explain his eagerness to opine about things of which he knows little or nothing.
53 posted on 12/27/2001 5:47:22 AM PST by Marauder
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To: Rooper
My dear brother Franklin:

May the peace of our Lord (and me) be upon you in this celebration season of my birth.

You have been much in my heart of late. Partly this is because I know the crushing pressure you feel as leader of the richest and most powerful nation on Earth.

Also, it is impossible not to think of you: Millions of people -- millions, Franklin: -- pray for you every day. People of all faiths and denominations. People in countries you have never visited.

Even people who believe in no God offer up prayers of hope when they hear you speak or see you on television because you hold their fate in your hands.

Since Dec 7, dear brother, I have noticed that you have turned away from me. I do not hear you ask yourself or anyone else the question you once asked all the time: "What would Jesus do?"

Remember, Franklin:? It was so familiar, it became an abbreviation: W.W.J.D.? When you ran for president,[I'm sure FDR invoked the word the Lord sometime during '32,'36,40. You can look it up if you've got nothing better to do,Pooper.] you told the world I was your favorite philosopher.

I know why you turned away. To face me, and all that I demand of those who follow me, requires tenacious courage and, in politics, a kind of leadership that is rare.

Some very sick, twisted and hate-filled men have inflicted great suffering upon you and your people. They have murdered in the name of The One Who Creates All, and they seem determined to go on murdering.

You want not only to keep them from hurting you again, you and your nation's people want to hurt them back. And you are willing to rationalize all manner of destruction, waste and -- if necessary -- killing toward those ends.

Dear brother, you are right to want to stop evil. The tricky part for humans has always been, what is the best way to stop it? My four-letter answer is written, over and over, in the Bible, but it has been ignored by potentates, peons and sometimes popes for 2,000 years.

Why? Because it contradicts the human instinct for vengeance.

Our Father said, "Vengeance is mine," Franklin:, not, "Vengeance belongs to those who have been wronged." Vengeance is never the answer to "What would Jesus do?" Especially vengeance that masquerades as "justice."

This is why I came, remember? Why I grew from Baby Jesus to Christ who suffered humiliation, unspeakable physical pain and a heart that was broken more times than there are stars in the skies.

As one who has accepted me as the light and the way, George, you have a great opportunity -- and a duty -- to show the world my way. The way of love.

As you know, I never said it would be easy.

Following me means forsaking the desire to hurt back, to rob your enemies of their humanness, even when their inhuman acts aim to rob you of yours. It means refusing to buy the Great Lie of evil -- that true peace and justice can be achieved through deliberate and systematic violence.

It means enduring the insults of angry and frightened people who wrongly equate "love thine enemies" with "have no spine."

To borrow from our holy brother Mahatma Gandhi, following me means donning the heavy cloak of peace and wearing it forever -- not just when it is convenient, or when you are watching someone else's war.

"Blessed are the peacemakers," was not a throw-away line I mumbled to Matthew. In Proverbs, "Seek peace and pursue it" listed no exemptions for world leaders.

Dear brother, as you celebrate my birth and reflect upon my life, I beg you, reverse the course. Pursue peace with the fervor, and resources, with which you now pursue our damaged and insane brother Adolph Hitler and the infested souls who follow his malicious path. They may be beyond reason and love, but millions more are not.

For God's sake, Franklin:, for the sake of your nation's future, face me again and ask what I would do.

54 posted on 12/27/2001 5:47:41 AM PST by Roscoe Karns
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To: Rooper
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55 posted on 12/27/2001 5:51:27 AM PST by Khepera
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Here is my e-mail to Stephanie:
My dear Sister Stephanie,

May you open your heart to receive the peace of the Lord! May He forgive you for presuming to speak for His Son!

While turning over the tables of the money changers in the Temple is not quite on the same scale as carpet bombing Afganistan, it has the same intent. Jesus was not gentile on evil doers.

You admonish "George" to "Seek peace and pursue it," but you make not one suggestion of how that can actually be done in any other way than "George" is doing now.

You attribute sentiments, "you and your nation's people want to hurt them back," to "George" and his country men that are more a projection of your childish nature than of ours. "George" has stated over and over that we do not wish these evil doers ill. We just want them to stop terrorizing the world! We want a world where all are free to worship God, or not worship God, as they choose.

Because they have said that they will fight to the death to bring us to submission, we have decided that the only way to stop them is to kill or capture them. We came to this point only after offering over, and over again to refrain from military action if the evil doers were turned over to us. He has sought peace, but the evil doers, and their supporters, have not responded in kind.

Have you converted to Islam? From what the evil doers have said, that is the only way that we can have "peace" with them. Good thing, for you, that the Taliban have not prevailed in this country! Here, in the richest and most powerful nation on Earth, you are free to write nonsense that would get you stoned to death if the evil doers are allowed to bring "peace" to the world.

May the Peace of our Lord, Jesus Christ, be with you!

56 posted on 12/27/2001 5:54:39 AM PST by SubMareener
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W.W.E.D.

Elvis: George, George, mah boy, mah boy.
Ah think ya need ta git in thereah an take thet guy out!

Thank you, thank you very much.

58 posted on 12/27/2001 5:54:44 AM PST by EggsAckley
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To: Captain Shady
I'm opposed to capital punishment, not for moral reasons, but for the belief I have that 40, 50, 60, even 70 years in prison is a far worse fate. Especially for those who are child-molestors, child-killers, rapists, and terrorists. In a crude way, prisons mead out their own brand of justice.

I also oppose the death penalty as a fiscal conservative. Think of how many fewer cases there would be be clogging up the appellate courts if bleeding hearts weren't trying to saving baby-killers from the "evils" of the American Justice system. The costs of convicting a murderer and sending him to rot in a cell for 50 years is far less than the cost of convicting him, sentencing him to death, and executing him within 8-10 years.

One more point, on the subject of Jesus.

Christian means "Christ-like" in Latin. As a Christian, one is to strive to be like Him, in all the examples shown to us of his love and compassion. But remember that He did express righteous anger and violence when the money-changers desecrated the Temple. There are many examples of God asking His people to go forth and fight for him, to destroy the enemies of God. I have no doubt, George W. is fighting God's battle- he is the Blade of God's anger.

God bless you, GWB!

59 posted on 12/27/2001 5:58:11 AM PST by Lunatic Fringe
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To: Lunatic Fringe
Yep. They pick and choose when they want Jesus to make a guest appearance for their cause. You wonder how keen He would be to support the sodomy and infanticide planks of the Dems' platform.
60 posted on 12/27/2001 6:03:33 AM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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