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To: PhilipFreneau
Liberalism is disunion. It's purpose is to divide, not unite.

Your comment is nonsense on its face.

Liberals may be misguided, but it's ludicrous to say they cannot or do not love this country.

But here's something from Washington:

"What stronger evidence can be given of the want of energy in our government than these disorders? If there exists not a power to check them, what security has a man of life, liberty, or property? To you, I am sure I need not add aught on this subject, the consequences of a lax or inefficient government, are too obvious to be dwelt on. Thirteen sovereignties pulling against each other, and all tugging at the federal head, will soon bring ruin to the whole; whereas a liberal, and energetic Constitution, well guarded and closely watched, to prevent encroachments, might restore us to that degree of respectability and consequence, to which we had a fair claim, and the brightest prospect of attaining..."

George Washington to James Madison November 5, 1786

Wasn't Washington being liberal when he wrote this?

I don't think Washington means the same thing when he uses the term 'liberal' that you do, but your statement above is just kneejerk reaction at its worst.

Walt

534 posted on 01/10/2002 4:58:10 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
I wrote: Liberalism is disunion. It's purpose is to divide, not unite.

You replied: Your comment is nonsense on its face. Liberals may be misguided, but it's ludicrous to say they cannot or do not love this country.

Only a liberal would defend liberals in such a manner. Only a liberal would be so blind to the evils of liberalism.

You wrote: But here's something from Washington: "What stronger evidence can be given of the want of energy in our government than these disorders? If there exists not a power to check them, what security has a man of life, liberty, or property? To you, I am sure I need not add aught on this subject, the consequences of a lax or inefficient government, are too obvious to be dwelt on. Thirteen sovereignties pulling against each other, and all tugging at the federal head, will soon bring ruin to the whole; whereas a liberal, and energetic Constitution, well guarded and closely watched, to prevent encroachments, might restore us to that degree of respectability and consequence, to which we had a fair claim, and the brightest prospect of attaining..."
George Washington to James Madison November 5, 1786

Wasn't Washington being liberal when he wrote this?

No.

I don't think Washington means the same thing when he uses the term 'liberal' that you do, but your statement above is just kneejerk reaction at its worst.

Knee Jerk? LOL. Coming from a liberal that is pretty darn funny. But it makes me wonder: how on earth did you get so arrogant and so full of self-importance in a single life-time? Never mind. That is one trait of liberalism that I will never understand, nor care to.

BTW, your Washington quote was pretty lame, or, at least, un-inspiring. Maybe you should try some of his right-wing-extremist-type quotes, such as this anti-living-constitution quote: "If in the opinion of the People, the distribution or modification of the Constitutional powers be in any particular wrong, let it be corrected by an amendment in the way which the Constitution designates. But let there be no change by usurpation; for though this, in one instance, may be the instrument of good, it is the customary weapon by which free governments are destroyed." -- George Washington, Farewell Address --

537 posted on 01/10/2002 5:40:25 PM PST by PhilipFreneau
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