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Too bad the 39th Congress didn't listen to him, and went on to create a different Union from "THE Union of the States" that Madison referred to at the dusk of his life. But, that's what Yankees do - reconstruct. They even reconstruct posterity's (like Walt's) minds. The South was on to them and their ways. The more it is bashed, the further down the road we will have to go away from the original Union, suffering under the illegitimate and loved-by-liberals, 14th Amendment.

The 14th amendment as written would have never existed if the slave holders hadn't so determined to hold on to their property.

Walt

So Walt, how much longer are you going to continue to provide aid and comfort to modern day bleeding heart liberals, simply because you have some kind of sanctimonious grudge against historic legal slavery?

Are you for One Big Legislature (OBL)?

The 14th amendment as written would have never existed if the slave holders hadn't so determined to hold on to their property.

The 13th was the one that abolished slavery. The 14th wouldn't have been written if the Federal Union full of Yankees hadn't been so eager to bankrupt the south. Just like modern day Federal mandates and income and estate taxes that take property without just compensation, the 14th got the Union out of having to compensate Southern property owners for their legally held property. This was just another deft end run around the last clause in the 5th Amendment that the Yankees made, while they held absolute power in Congress, and "saved the Union".

The 13th was ratified voluntarily by the Southern states in 1865, while most of their legislatures were reasonably intact, three years before the 14th. When the South pitched in voluntarily to ratify the 13th Amendment, they expanded the jurisdiction of the Emancipation Proclamation to the Northern States. It's quite conceivable that Georgia's legislature helped free U.S. Grant's and Mary Todd's slave(s).