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To: H.Akston
How on earth did the image of George Washington get on the Great Seal of the CSA?"

A Tory like you, Walt, will never understand.

You obviously have no explanation, or you would post it. But keep up with the sniping; it only opens the doors to blast you with the record.

"I do not conceive we can exist long as a nation, without having lodged somewhere a power which will pervade the whole Union in as energetic a manner, as the authority of the different state governments extends over the several states. To be fearful of vesting Congress, constituted as that body is, with ample authorities for national purposes, appears to me to be the very climax of popular absurdity and madness."

George Washington to John Jay, 15 August 1786

"What stronger evidence can be given of the want of energy in our government than these disorders? If there exists not a power to check them, what security has a man of life, liberty, or property? To you, I am sure I need not add aught on this subject, the consequences of a lax or inefficient government, are too obvious to be dwelt on. Thirteen sovereignties pulling against each other, and all tugging at the federal head, will soon bring ruin to the whole; whereas a liberal, and energetic Constitution, well guarded and closely watched, to prevent encroachments, might restore us to that degree of respectability and consequence, to which we had a fair claim, and the brightest prospect of attaining..."

George Washington to James Madison November 5, 1786

"In all our deliberations on this subject we kept steadily in our view, that which appears to us the greatest interest of every true American, the consolidation of our Union, in which is involved our prosperity, felicity, safety, perhaps our national existance.

George Washington to the Continental Congress September 17, 1787

Anyone who examines the record will find it riven with dishonorable acts by the secessionists. You can't enlist George Washington to help you in your hateful crusade.

Now I know Shuckmaster wasnts to discount the statements of the people of the past because they just happen to be dead!

Others will not.

Walt

329 posted on 01/02/2002 1:44:37 AM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
The original Union was voluntary. That's the one George Washington wanted. "Consent of the governed" with him was key. He was the Anti-Lincoln.

"No State, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate." Article V, US Constitution.

Now why do you suppose a state could consent to being denied their equal suffrage in the Senate? Could it be because they had the legal option under the Constitution to SECEDE??

Illinois motto: "State Sovereignty, National Union" Ole Abe was shot too soon. The 39th Congress wiped out half his state's motto. Walt cheers.

359 posted on 01/02/2002 1:53:08 PM PST by H.Akston
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