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To: Who is John Galt?
I quote the ratification debates, the Federalist Papers, the ratification documents of the States, the words of Mr. Jefferson and Mr. Madison, the early history of the Republic, the most prominent legal references of the era, the Constitution itself, and judicial opinions consistent with the foregoing - in other words, “the whole record.”

Well, that's just another damn'd lie, isn't it?

Walt

323 posted on 01/01/2002 1:26:59 PM PST by WhiskeyPapa
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To: WhiskeyPapa
Don't pay your income taxes on that basis and see what happens.

Drop me a card from the federal prison farm.

As always, you have confused two completely different concepts: the power to do something, and the constitutional right to do something.

The secesionists didn't go before the court because they knew they no case. Your 'argment' will always fall to that simple fact.

Really? History suggests that the secessionists “didn't go before the court” because they did not believe the court had jurisdiction. And once again – ‘as always’ – your 'argment' fails because you have substituted assumptions for historical fact.

The secessionists were damn'd traitors, every one.

Are you referring to the people of the several States who seceded from the so-called ‘perpetual union’ formed under the Articles of Confederation? Or to the people of the several States who seceded from the not-so-called ‘perpetual union’ formed under the Constitution, invoking their Tenth Amendment reservation of rights as they did so?

;>)

Well, that's just another damn'd lie, isn't it?

Actually, it is anything but a “lie:” shall I quote Mr. Jefferson’s Kentucky Resolutions yet again? And shall I quote Mr. Madison’s Virginia Resolutions, and his Report of 1800, yet again? Shall I quote the New York State ratification debates, wherein the dissolution of the so-called ‘perpetual union’ is discussed at length, as is a potential confederation outside the constitutional union, yet again? Shall I quote Tucker’s Blackstones and Rawle’s A View of the Constitution, specifically regarding the right of secession, yet again? Shall I quote Mr. Justice Taney or Mr. Justice Storey regarding the suspension of the writ yet again? Shall I quote Article VII and the original Preamble yet again? Shall I quote the ratification documents of Virginia, New York, and Rhode Island yet again? (As you know, I have posted links to all of these, and more, at my FR homepage... ;>)

I suspect it wouldn’t do any good: you have an obvious aversion to historical fact. Speaking of which, would you care to discuss the secession of the ratifying States from the so-called ‘perpetual union’ formed under the Articles of Confederation? No? How about the palpably unconstitutional Alien and Sedition Acts – which were enforced by federal judges? I thought not. What was it, again, that you were saying about "the whole record?"

(LOL! ;>)

324 posted on 01/01/2002 2:27:18 PM PST by Who is John Galt?
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